Do you do this at round about ????

[Deleted User]

Pkman said:

So there is a massive queue to go left at the round about.

And you go on the right hand land, do a 360 degree, then turn left where you meant to go

Save so much time. All legal too

No, I go into the right hand lane and floor it to beat the traffic in the left hand lane, then move back over into the left hand lane to exit onto the slip road. Some people get annoyed and take it out on their horn but who cares, I'm away... 

Arklight

Pkman said:

So there is a massive queue to go left at the round about.

And you go on the right hand land, do a 360 degree, then turn left where you meant to go

Save so much time. All legal too

I have done it once or twice if I'm really in a hurry. Bear in mind that the other drivers are often well aware of what you are up to though, and I have heard of things turning nasty. Yeah it's probably just insults and middle fingers but I'd rather just queue the 5 minutes or so.

Jenni_D

Deleted_User said:

Pkman said:

So there is a massive queue to go left at the round about.

And you go on the right hand land, do a 360 degree, then turn left where you meant to go

Save so much time. All legal too

No, I go into the right hand lane and floor it to beat the traffic in the left hand lane, then move back over into the left hand lane to exit onto the slip road. Some people get annoyed and take it out on their horn but who cares, I'm away... 

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rollingmoon

Pkman said:

So there is a massive queue to go left at the round about.

And you go on the right hand land, do a 360 degree, then turn left where you meant to go

Save so much time. All legal too

I don't even do that... I just filter up to the roundabout and if there's standing traffic at the left exit then I filter past that too; usually with the front wheel in the air at 75mph while drinking from a can of Red Bull and making a phone call if all the rubbish talked about motorcyclists is to be believed

Petriix

To be honest, if you're signalling correctly and maintaining good lane discipline then I'm happy with whatever you choose to do at the roundabout; you could go round and round all day National Lampoon's style for all I care.

I'm generally in favour of anything which clears the queues quicker. This normally means not joining the queue at all. I'll often make navigation choices on the fly based on the traffic.

There's one roundabout in particular where left, right or straight on can have a similar journey time so I'll go in whichever lane has the shortest queue. I'll then choose my exit based on the clearest route. If I'm in the left lane then I'll choose between left and straight on. If I'm in the right lane then I might do a full loop and ultimately take the first or second exit.

One thing I absolutely can't abide is people queueing back onto the roundabout unnecessarily while there's an empty second lane alongside them. That's just moronic yet the majority of people seem to do so. 

Chris_English

zagfles said:

Manxman_in_exile said:

zagfles said:

Username03725 said:

To answer the question, no I wouldn't. It's queue jumping by any other name. If you have no problems doing that that's between you and your conscience. If all of the left-turners started randomly choosing to be in the left or right lane it would soon turn to chaos, ergo you're relying on everyone else doing the right thing so that you can take advantage of that. 

To reference an earlier post, this question is completely separate to not correctly merging in turn approaching a road lane closure or width restriction.

It depends on the reason for the queue. If for instance it's because the roundabout is busy eg lots of traffic coming from your right, then using the right lane and going 450 degrees could actually reduce queuing time for those in the left lane as two lanes are being used to get onto the roundabout.

But if the reason for the queue is that the road going to the left is clogged, then using the right lane and doing a 450 will increase queuing time for those who stay left as effectively the circlers are "jumping the queue" to get onto the clogged road.

Yeah - but if you turned 450 you'd be going in the opposite direction to that which you wanted...

(Does nobody know their 90 times table?  We did it in our first week at primary school in the Isle of Man)

Yeah yeah, discussed above. By reference to your entry point of the roundabout, or from an observer in the middle of the roundabout. You enter at 0 degrees. Turn left you've gone 90 degrees round the roundabout. Going straight you've gone 180 degrees round the roundabout. etc. So 450 would be doing the full 360 degrees of the circle back to your starting point, and an extra 90 would be turning left.

Going straight on is turning 180 degrees?

How? Left is 90 degrees left, straight on is zero degrees, right is turning 90 degrees right, and going back the way you came is turning 180 degrees.

Chris_English

Deleted_User said:

Pkman said:

So there is a massive queue to go left at the round about.

And you go on the right hand land, do a 360 degree, then turn left where you meant to go

Save so much time. All legal too

No, I go into the right hand lane and floor it to beat the traffic in the left hand lane, then move back over into the left hand lane to exit onto the slip road. Some people get annoyed and take it out on their horn but who cares, I'm away... 

That only works if you have an exceptionally fast car so that you don’t hold anyone up or inconvenience them.

Sadly you also get people trying to do it in their old “hot” hatch, which is just selfish.

Bigphil1474

Car_54 said:

Bigphil1474 said:

Nope. Depending on the size of the roundabout, but for a normal road roundabout, turning right is 90 degrees, coming back on yourself is 180, turning left by going right round is 270, and going back to where you were facing in the first place is 360 degrees.
I've never done the go round the roundabout trick, i think it's rude, lazy and selfish, but each to their own.

Your driving may be good, but your maths is very dodgy.

Left is 90 degrees, ahead is 180, right is 270. Doing what the OP suggests is 450.

It's perfectly legal and I've done it. 

My maths is perfect as others have explained (from the drivers perspective) - and my O level, AO level, and A level obviously taught me summat. 

scrappy_returns

Username03725 said:

To reference an earlier post, this question is completely separate to not correctly merging in turn approaching a road lane closure or width restriction.

But the principle is the same, it's just another example of where people incorrectly believe manners, politeness or etiquette is part of driving. It isn't.

zagfles

Chris_English said:

zagfles said:

Manxman_in_exile said:

zagfles said:

Username03725 said:

To answer the question, no I wouldn't. It's queue jumping by any other name. If you have no problems doing that that's between you and your conscience. If all of the left-turners started randomly choosing to be in the left or right lane it would soon turn to chaos, ergo you're relying on everyone else doing the right thing so that you can take advantage of that. 

To reference an earlier post, this question is completely separate to not correctly merging in turn approaching a road lane closure or width restriction.

It depends on the reason for the queue. If for instance it's because the roundabout is busy eg lots of traffic coming from your right, then using the right lane and going 450 degrees could actually reduce queuing time for those in the left lane as two lanes are being used to get onto the roundabout.

But if the reason for the queue is that the road going to the left is clogged, then using the right lane and doing a 450 will increase queuing time for those who stay left as effectively the circlers are "jumping the queue" to get onto the clogged road.

Yeah - but if you turned 450 you'd be going in the opposite direction to that which you wanted...

(Does nobody know their 90 times table?  We did it in our first week at primary school in the Isle of Man)

Yeah yeah, discussed above. By reference to your entry point of the roundabout, or from an observer in the middle of the roundabout. You enter at 0 degrees. Turn left you've gone 90 degrees round the roundabout. Going straight you've gone 180 degrees round the roundabout. etc. So 450 would be doing the full 360 degrees of the circle back to your starting point, and an extra 90 would be turning left.

Going straight on is turning 180 degrees?

How? Left is 90 degrees left, straight on is zero degrees, right is turning 90 degrees right, and going back the way you came is turning 180 degrees.

Like I said above. Roundabouts tend to be circular, hence the name, so by reference to how many degrees of that circle you cover. You can't usually actually go "straight on" at a proper roundabout as that would mean driving over the middle of it. So you do a 180 degree arc of a circle.

If you want to measure it by change in direction of the car, then going "straight on" would be net 0 degrees, but it will involve initially turning left as you enter, then arcing right round the circle clockwise, then turning left to exit. The net result of those several changes in direction is 0. But using that logic, looping the roundabout then left isn't a 270, it's 90, since 90 degrees is the net change of direction, whether or not you do a full loop.