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No radiators in the bedrooms of the house I am buying

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  • JGB1955
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    edited 3 January 2022 at 5:48PM
    Laurelii said:
    JGB1955 said:
    Looks like there IS a radiator under the window in the second image.
    the one with the bear on the bed or with the pink blanket ? and where ? :)
    Sorry - THIRD image, behind the desk.

    EDIT - maybe it's an upright piece of the desk.......
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  • Hedgepigs
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    Laurelii said:
    comeandgo said:
    There is a radiator visible in one of the rooms, would there be other behind the headboard or chest of drawers?
    Which room ? :) i just always assumed they were under the window. only visited 2 times 
    Often, but certainly not always. Only 1 radiator is under a window in my house 
  • Laurelii
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    user1977 said:
    Laurelii said:
    user1977 said:
    I doubt a single panel radiator on the landing will do much (especially while bedroom doors are closed) though there might be a surfeit of heat coming up from downstairs, and insulation might be reasonably good. And it depends how warm you like your bedrooms!
    There is a large radiator in the room below. is there a way how i can find out if the insulation is good or would i have to be moved in first and look for myself. It is a mid terrace (again if that is relevant) Im a FTB so all of this is very new.
    What does the EPC say? Have you had a survey?

    In practice though you're probably better to wait and see what it's like to live with before worrying too much about what (if anything) to do about it.
    see attchached photos. Contacted seller and she said the house is only part central heated. they have a 24kw combi and only 5 radiators.
  • Laurelii
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    user1977 said:
    Laurelii said:
    At what point in the prices are you, as it should come up in the survey.
    already had the survery done. everything came back fine 
    But what does the survey actually say about the heating? Or insulation?
    uploaded pics of the epc report
  • Laurelii
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    Laurelii said:
    user1977 said:
    Laurelii said:
    user1977 said:
    I doubt a single panel radiator on the landing will do much (especially while bedroom doors are closed) though there might be a surfeit of heat coming up from downstairs, and insulation might be reasonably good. And it depends how warm you like your bedrooms!
    There is a large radiator in the room below. is there a way how i can find out if the insulation is good or would i have to be moved in first and look for myself. It is a mid terrace (again if that is relevant) Im a FTB so all of this is very new.
    What does the EPC say? Have you had a survey?

    In practice though you're probably better to wait and see what it's like to live with before worrying too much about what (if anything) to do about it.
    see attchached photos. Contacted seller and she said the house is only part central heated. they have a 24kw combi and only 5 radiators.
    The EPC is from feb 2014
  • RedFraggle
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    Laurelii said:
    Laurelii said:
    user1977 said:
    Laurelii said:
    user1977 said:
    I doubt a single panel radiator on the landing will do much (especially while bedroom doors are closed) though there might be a surfeit of heat coming up from downstairs, and insulation might be reasonably good. And it depends how warm you like your bedrooms!
    There is a large radiator in the room below. is there a way how i can find out if the insulation is good or would i have to be moved in first and look for myself. It is a mid terrace (again if that is relevant) Im a FTB so all of this is very new.
    What does the EPC say? Have you had a survey?

    In practice though you're probably better to wait and see what it's like to live with before worrying too much about what (if anything) to do about it.
    see attchached photos. Contacted seller and she said the house is only part central heated. they have a 24kw combi and only 5 radiators.
    The EPC is from feb 2014
    They're valid for 10 years if no significant changes are made
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  • canaldumidi
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    edited 3 January 2022 at 7:30PM
    Laurelii said:
    Laurelii said:
    user1977 said:
    Laurelii said:
    user1977 said:
    I doubt a single panel radiator on the landing will do much (especially while bedroom doors are closed) though there might be a surfeit of heat coming up from downstairs, and insulation might be reasonably good. And it depends how warm you like your bedrooms!
    There is a large radiator in the room below. is there a way how i can find out if the insulation is good or would i have to be moved in first and look for myself. It is a mid terrace (again if that is relevant) Im a FTB so all of this is very new.
    What does the EPC say? Have you had a survey?

    In practice though you're probably better to wait and see what it's like to live with before worrying too much about what (if anything) to do about it.
    see attchached photos. Contacted seller and she said the house is only part central heated. they have a 24kw combi and only 5 radiators.
    The EPC is from feb 2014
    They're valid for 10 years if no significant changes are made
    If significant changes are made, the owner can opt to have an up-dated EPC done.
    I note the EPC says:
    Main Heating: boiler and radiators. Mains gas
    Secondary heating: Room heaters. Mains gas.
    So according to the EPC there should be gas fires in the bedrooms- but EPCs are notoriously unreliable...........


  • Bendy_House
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    edited 3 January 2022 at 10:21PM
    24kW will serve more than 5 rads, and is plenty for most 3-bed houses. (That boiler's quite large 24kW output has been chosen to provide instant DHW, and not for its capacity to heat a house - probably only around 15kW is needed for CH, and that will fall off rapidly as the house gets warm). Is yours detached, semi, terraced? So if you did want to add more rads, you should be ok from the boiler point of view.
    Alternatively, you have an open stairwell, so much of the heat from the ground floor will end up upstairs in any case, so leave the bedroom doors open until bedtime. Or, that single-panel hallway rad could be 'doubled' and the bedroom doors left open for some benefit. Bearing in mind these are bedrooms - so normally only require warmth first thing in t'morn and in the late eves - you might decide that a small oil-filled rad in each (on a timer) is all that's needed, perhaps just as a supplement to the previous 'pinching heat from the hallway' ideas.
    Fitting extra rads is a simple process, tho' obviously can be disruptive. Lifting carpets shouldn't be a problem, and this should really just be a day's work. However, it's bound to cost a 'bit'. How much? I don't know, but rads are ~£100 a pop, to which you add pipe and fittings and a day's work for a plumber and their mate. I dunno - a very rough £1k ballpark? £1k will pay for many years of oil-rad heating of the bedrooms over winter.
    Oh, and gas is almost certainly going to become more expensive, and leccy comparatively less so.
  • GaleSF63
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    Have you asked whether there are radiators in the bedrooms? There's a lot of furniture in those photos, though I admit it would be unlikely that there was no sign of a radiator in any picture, if they existed. 
  • Slinky
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    edited 3 January 2022 at 9:03PM
    My parents owned a house built in 1974 with no heating whatsoever upstairs. I spent most winters scraping ice from the inside of my bedroom window. On my wife's first visit she wore a hat in bed it was so cold.

    Is the house you are buying located in Runcorn, Cheshire by any chance?
    I grew up in the seventies and it was the same for me - icicles on the inside of the windows. Probably why I hate double glazing / hot bedrooms and always sleep with the windows open. Much healthier than nowadays.



    Our house was 1930s with single glazing, precious little insulation and ice on the windows. Only heating upstairs was in the bathroom (no shower and the bath was always grim as the hot tank was tiny and you could only get about 3 inches of hot water in the bath) and not much heating downstairs either.   I hate being cold as a consequence.
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