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  • Sorry you're not well and will miss the meal though.  I can imagine that you have been very much looking forward to it.
    Who said they're not well?
    OP did.  They have covid.  They may feel fine, but by definition they're not well.
    If they feel fine they're well.

    Many people have Herpes Simplex and/or Varicella Zoster floating around inside them for life.  Are they "not well" too?
  • Sorry you're not well and will miss the meal though.  I can imagine that you have been very much looking forward to it.
    Who said they're not well?
    OP did.  They have covid.  They may feel fine, but by definition they're not well.
    If they feel fine they're well.

    Many people have Herpes Simplex and/or Varicella Zoster floating around inside them for life.  Are they "not well" too?
    There is a big difference between "feeling well" and "being well".

    Mary Mallon (Typhoid Mary) didn't show any symptoms and felt fine yet she went on to infect dozens of people, some of whom died. Would you say that she was well?

  • MarvinDay said:
    Sorry you're not well and will miss the meal though.  I can imagine that you have been very much looking forward to it.
    Who said they're not well?
    OP did.  They have covid.  They may feel fine, but by definition they're not well.
    If they feel fine they're well.

    Many people have Herpes Simplex and/or Varicella Zoster floating around inside them for life.  Are they "not well" too?
    There is a big difference between "feeling well" and "being well".

    Mary Mallon (Typhoid Mary) didn't show any symptoms and felt fine yet she went on to infect dozens of people, some of whom died. Would you say that she was well?

    Yes, I would. Why wouldn't I?
  • MarvinDay said:
    Sorry you're not well and will miss the meal though.  I can imagine that you have been very much looking forward to it.
    Who said they're not well?
    OP did.  They have covid.  They may feel fine, but by definition they're not well.
    If they feel fine they're well.

    Many people have Herpes Simplex and/or Varicella Zoster floating around inside them for life.  Are they "not well" too?
    There is a big difference between "feeling well" and "being well".

    Mary Mallon (Typhoid Mary) didn't show any symptoms and felt fine yet she went on to infect dozens of people, some of whom died. Would you say that she was well?

    Yes, I would. Why wouldn't I?
    Because you'd be wrong if you did.

    To be well is to be free, or recovered from, illness.  By definition, OP is therefore unwell.  
    I presume @smashinglynaive is either (a) not-so-nimbly backtracking after realising they had not read the opening post properly, or (b) is one of those people who believes that testing positive for Covid does not mean that a person is "not well".
  • Spies
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    Did the OP get their meal? 
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  • TELLIT01
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    MarvinDay said:
    Sorry you're not well and will miss the meal though.  I can imagine that you have been very much looking forward to it.
    Who said they're not well?
    OP did.  They have covid.  They may feel fine, but by definition they're not well.
    If they feel fine they're well.

    Many people have Herpes Simplex and/or Varicella Zoster floating around inside them for life.  Are they "not well" too?
    There is a big difference between "feeling well" and "being well".

    Mary Mallon (Typhoid Mary) didn't show any symptoms and felt fine yet she went on to infect dozens of people, some of whom died. Would you say that she was well?

    Yes, I would. Why wouldn't I?
    Because you'd be wrong if you did.

    To be well is to be free, or recovered from, illness.  By definition, OP is therefore unwell.  
    I presume @smashinglynaive is either (a) not-so-nimbly backtracking after realising they had not read the opening post properly, or (b) is one of those people who believes that testing positive for Covid does not mean that a person is "not well".

    Testing positive is not the same as being unwell.  They are carrying the virus but it is having no effect on their health.  They cannot therefore be classed as unwell. 
  • TELLIT01 said:
    MarvinDay said:
    Sorry you're not well and will miss the meal though.  I can imagine that you have been very much looking forward to it.
    Who said they're not well?
    OP did.  They have covid.  They may feel fine, but by definition they're not well.
    If they feel fine they're well.

    Many people have Herpes Simplex and/or Varicella Zoster floating around inside them for life.  Are they "not well" too?
    There is a big difference between "feeling well" and "being well".

    Mary Mallon (Typhoid Mary) didn't show any symptoms and felt fine yet she went on to infect dozens of people, some of whom died. Would you say that she was well?

    Yes, I would. Why wouldn't I?
    Because you'd be wrong if you did.

    To be well is to be free, or recovered from, illness.  By definition, OP is therefore unwell.  
    I presume @smashinglynaive is either (a) not-so-nimbly backtracking after realising they had not read the opening post properly, or (b) is one of those people who believes that testing positive for Covid does not mean that a person is "not well".

    Testing positive is not the same as being unwell.  They are carrying the virus but it is having no effect on their health.  They cannot therefore be classed as unwell. 
    They can, and they are.  They may not feel unwell, but if they have a verified coronavirus infection, they are unwell by definition and classed as such.
  • MarvinDay
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    edited 26 December 2021 at 1:27PM
    TELLIT01 said:
    MarvinDay said:
    Sorry you're not well and will miss the meal though.  I can imagine that you have been very much looking forward to it.
    Who said they're not well?
    OP did.  They have covid.  They may feel fine, but by definition they're not well.
    If they feel fine they're well.

    Many people have Herpes Simplex and/or Varicella Zoster floating around inside them for life.  Are they "not well" too?
    There is a big difference between "feeling well" and "being well".

    Mary Mallon (Typhoid Mary) didn't show any symptoms and felt fine yet she went on to infect dozens of people, some of whom died. Would you say that she was well?

    Yes, I would. Why wouldn't I?
    Because you'd be wrong if you did.

    To be well is to be free, or recovered from, illness.  By definition, OP is therefore unwell.  
    I presume @smashinglynaive is either (a) not-so-nimbly backtracking after realising they had not read the opening post properly, or (b) is one of those people who believes that testing positive for Covid does not mean that a person is "not well".

    Testing positive is not the same as being unwell.  They are carrying the virus but it is having no effect on their health.  They cannot therefore be classed as unwell. 
    Are you saying that if I had a congenital heart defect, a tumour, HIV etc and none of these were having any effect on my health, I wouldn't be classed as unwell? Good luck trying to convince any insurance company of that.

    Regarding Covid or any other transmissible disease.
    Even though you may feel fine yourself, if you have the virus in your system and you can pass on that potentially fatal disease to others, how can you seriously think that you are well?
  • soolin
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    TELLIT01 said:
    MarvinDay said:
    Sorry you're not well and will miss the meal though.  I can imagine that you have been very much looking forward to it.
    Who said they're not well?
    OP did.  They have covid.  They may feel fine, but by definition they're not well.
    If they feel fine they're well.

    Many people have Herpes Simplex and/or Varicella Zoster floating around inside them for life.  Are they "not well" too?
    There is a big difference between "feeling well" and "being well".

    Mary Mallon (Typhoid Mary) didn't show any symptoms and felt fine yet she went on to infect dozens of people, some of whom died. Would you say that she was well?

    Yes, I would. Why wouldn't I?
    Because you'd be wrong if you did.

    To be well is to be free, or recovered from, illness.  By definition, OP is therefore unwell.  
    I presume @smashinglynaive is either (a) not-so-nimbly backtracking after realising they had not read the opening post properly, or (b) is one of those people who believes that testing positive for Covid does not mean that a person is "not well".

    Testing positive is not the same as being unwell.  They are carrying the virus but it is having no effect on their health.  They cannot therefore be classed as unwell. 
    They can, and they are.  They may not feel unwell, but if they have a verified coronavirus infection, they are unwell by definition and classed as such.
    I do rather struggle with the concept that if I have anything wrong I am automatically unwell. I have a chronic auto immune disease but am completely well and healthy, if someone asked me if I was unwell I would say no. 
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