Book Subscription Extended Three Times Beyond Original Advertisement With No End In Sight

gabiieve

I had the same problem with the Star trek collection they did. I also got into it because I thought "neat, 50 issues for a complete Star trek collection". When it continued past 50 I asked my local comic book shop and they said Eaglemoss always does this and it could go on forever. So after 55 editions (what fitted on my shelf) I cancelled the subscription. I did have to pay the shop for issue 56 since it had been already ordered, but I let them resell it.

I definitely relate to the fact I would never have started buying them if I knew how long it would run for. I don't think people here are intending to ridicule you, they are asking the same questions a court would ask, because unfortunately I don't think this complain would hold up.

jon81uk

pulliptears said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

pulliptears said:

If I'm understanding this correctly I can see his point.

Replace comic book with Jigsaw.
Seller offers a piece of the jigsaw puzzle a week with a completed jigsaw after 55 pieces.  If suddenly piece 55 wasn't the end of the jigsaw and didn't make the complete picture I'd be annoyed, the dilemma then being the sunken cost fallacy, do you cut your losses or carry on in the hope it stops soon?

All that said, I can't see a court supporting that either.

With your jigsaw analogy, that would mean that the first 55 pieces complete the picture as shown on the box, but you have the option to buy another 125 pieces to extend the picture beyond that originally promised.

I'm curious so I've had a google.  
There is a set of 97 for sale on eBay, and because my life is rather dull I've sat and counted and it would seem issue 55 is to the left of Superman and Riddler at the bottom run.  Looking at the image that surprised me, It would have been better to finish the run on the DC logo so it was standalone, but where 55 ends it does look incomplete.

Wikipedia implies the orginal run was 60 not 55 but that doesn't make a huge difference.
Counting the spines in the alove image, it seems the second DC logo after the villians is around 67 copies, so the OP could have easily stopped there and had a complete image. 
If they had complained at the time they were expecting to pay for 55 (or 60) issues to get a complete picture and had to buy 67 then I could see a point, they needed the extra seven issues to finish the image of The Cheetah.
But to then keep buying even past the second DC logo I have no sympathy, there was a finished image and it was your choice to keep purchasing, the time to complain was at issue 60ish.

TELLIT01

pulliptears said:

If I'm understanding this correctly I can see his point.

Replace comic book with Jigsaw.
Seller offers a piece of the jigsaw puzzle a week with a completed jigsaw after 55 pieces.  If suddenly piece 55 wasn't the end of the jigsaw and didn't make the complete picture I'd be annoyed, the dilemma then being the sunken cost fallacy, do you cut your losses or carry on in the hope it stops soon?

All that said, I can't see a court supporting that either.

It's a poor analogy.  From my understanding the first 55 'pieces' of the publication do make a complete picture in their own right.  Assuming that picture matches the one shown in the original advert there is no valid basis to any claim.

I understand what the OP is complaining about, I just don't agree that the publisher is doing anything wrong. 

pulliptears

jon81uk said:

pulliptears said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

pulliptears said:

If I'm understanding this correctly I can see his point.

Replace comic book with Jigsaw.
Seller offers a piece of the jigsaw puzzle a week with a completed jigsaw after 55 pieces.  If suddenly piece 55 wasn't the end of the jigsaw and didn't make the complete picture I'd be annoyed, the dilemma then being the sunken cost fallacy, do you cut your losses or carry on in the hope it stops soon?

All that said, I can't see a court supporting that either.

With your jigsaw analogy, that would mean that the first 55 pieces complete the picture as shown on the box, but you have the option to buy another 125 pieces to extend the picture beyond that originally promised.

I'm curious so I've had a google.  
There is a set of 97 for sale on eBay, and because my life is rather dull I've sat and counted and it would seem issue 55 is to the left of Superman and Riddler at the bottom run.  Looking at the image that surprised me, It would have been better to finish the run on the DC logo so it was standalone, but where 55 ends it does look incomplete.

Wikipedia implies the orginal run was 60 not 55 but that doesn't make a huge difference.
Counting the spines in the alove image, it seems the second DC logo after the villians is around 67 copies, so the OP could have easily stopped there and had a complete image. 
If they had complained at the time they were expecting to pay for 55 (or 60) issues to get a complete picture and had to buy 67 then I could see a point, they needed the extra seven issues to finish the image of The Cheetah.
But to then keep buying even past the second DC logo I have no sympathy, there was a finished image and it was your choice to keep purchasing, the time to complain was at issue 60ish.

An excellent point.   Also worth noting had the set (or the OP) finished at Cheetah then it would have also been a perfectly balanced set with six characters either side of the DC logo.

Perhaps an option for OP is to finish on the last blank before the DC logo and sell the remainder.

sheramber

Do you not think that once the collection gets extended multiple times, said collectors down the line would no longer be interested in an incomplete collection if I had stopped at 55? 

That suggests to me the OP was envisaging selling the collection on. probably for a profit.

Ergates

sheramber said:

Do you not think that once the collection gets extended multiple times, said collectors down the line would no longer be interested in an incomplete collection if I had stopped at 55? 

That suggests to me the OP was envisaging selling the collection on. probably for a profit.

In that case they are also deeply deluded as well as rude.

Ergates

jon81uk said:

pulliptears said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

pulliptears said:

If I'm understanding this correctly I can see his point.

Replace comic book with Jigsaw.
Seller offers a piece of the jigsaw puzzle a week with a completed jigsaw after 55 pieces.  If suddenly piece 55 wasn't the end of the jigsaw and didn't make the complete picture I'd be annoyed, the dilemma then being the sunken cost fallacy, do you cut your losses or carry on in the hope it stops soon?

All that said, I can't see a court supporting that either.

With your jigsaw analogy, that would mean that the first 55 pieces complete the picture as shown on the box, but you have the option to buy another 125 pieces to extend the picture beyond that originally promised.

I'm curious so I've had a google.  
There is a set of 97 for sale on eBay, and because my life is rather dull I've sat and counted and it would seem issue 55 is to the left of Superman and Riddler at the bottom run.  Looking at the image that surprised me, It would have been better to finish the run on the DC logo so it was standalone, but where 55 ends it does look incomplete.

Wikipedia implies the orginal run was 60 not 55 but that doesn't make a huge difference.
Counting the spines in the alove image, it seems the second DC logo after the villians is around 67 copies, so the OP could have easily stopped there and had a complete image. 
If they had complained at the time they were expecting to pay for 55 (or 60) issues to get a complete picture and had to buy 67 then I could see a point, they needed the extra seven issues to finish the image of The Cheetah.
But to then keep buying even past the second DC logo I have no sympathy, there was a finished image and it was your choice to keep purchasing, the time to complain was at issue 60ish.

There is a nice break at the 60 mark just before the *start* of the 2nd DC logo.  That would have been the place to stop.

jon81uk

Ergates said:

jon81uk said:

pulliptears said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

pulliptears said:

If I'm understanding this correctly I can see his point.

Replace comic book with Jigsaw.
Seller offers a piece of the jigsaw puzzle a week with a completed jigsaw after 55 pieces.  If suddenly piece 55 wasn't the end of the jigsaw and didn't make the complete picture I'd be annoyed, the dilemma then being the sunken cost fallacy, do you cut your losses or carry on in the hope it stops soon?

All that said, I can't see a court supporting that either.

With your jigsaw analogy, that would mean that the first 55 pieces complete the picture as shown on the box, but you have the option to buy another 125 pieces to extend the picture beyond that originally promised.

I'm curious so I've had a google.  
There is a set of 97 for sale on eBay, and because my life is rather dull I've sat and counted and it would seem issue 55 is to the left of Superman and Riddler at the bottom run.  Looking at the image that surprised me, It would have been better to finish the run on the DC logo so it was standalone, but where 55 ends it does look incomplete.

Wikipedia implies the orginal run was 60 not 55 but that doesn't make a huge difference.
Counting the spines in the alove image, it seems the second DC logo after the villians is around 67 copies, so the OP could have easily stopped there and had a complete image. 
If they had complained at the time they were expecting to pay for 55 (or 60) issues to get a complete picture and had to buy 67 then I could see a point, they needed the extra seven issues to finish the image of The Cheetah.
But to then keep buying even past the second DC logo I have no sympathy, there was a finished image and it was your choice to keep purchasing, the time to complain was at issue 60ish.

There is a nice break at the 60 mark just before the *start* of the 2nd DC logo.  That would have been the place to stop.

I mis-counted then as got 67 at that point. 

But as Wikipedia suggests it was an original run of 60 it would make sense for that to be the point where it meets the first logo.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics_Graphic_Novel_Collection

theoretica

Actually, if the image here is what was promised it looks like the first 60 books are as advertised and form the complete image shown:

https://en-gb.eaglemoss.com/hero-collector/dc-comics/dc-comics-graphic-novel-collection

Ergates

jon81uk said:

Ergates said:

jon81uk said:

pulliptears said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

pulliptears said:

If I'm understanding this correctly I can see his point.

Replace comic book with Jigsaw.
Seller offers a piece of the jigsaw puzzle a week with a completed jigsaw after 55 pieces.  If suddenly piece 55 wasn't the end of the jigsaw and didn't make the complete picture I'd be annoyed, the dilemma then being the sunken cost fallacy, do you cut your losses or carry on in the hope it stops soon?

All that said, I can't see a court supporting that either.

With your jigsaw analogy, that would mean that the first 55 pieces complete the picture as shown on the box, but you have the option to buy another 125 pieces to extend the picture beyond that originally promised.

I'm curious so I've had a google.  
There is a set of 97 for sale on eBay, and because my life is rather dull I've sat and counted and it would seem issue 55 is to the left of Superman and Riddler at the bottom run.  Looking at the image that surprised me, It would have been better to finish the run on the DC logo so it was standalone, but where 55 ends it does look incomplete.

Wikipedia implies the orginal run was 60 not 55 but that doesn't make a huge difference.
Counting the spines in the alove image, it seems the second DC logo after the villians is around 67 copies, so the OP could have easily stopped there and had a complete image. 
If they had complained at the time they were expecting to pay for 55 (or 60) issues to get a complete picture and had to buy 67 then I could see a point, they needed the extra seven issues to finish the image of The Cheetah.
But to then keep buying even past the second DC logo I have no sympathy, there was a finished image and it was your choice to keep purchasing, the time to complain was at issue 60ish.

There is a nice break at the 60 mark just before the *start* of the 2nd DC logo.  That would have been the place to stop.

I mis-counted then as got 67 at that point. 

But as Wikipedia suggests it was an original run of 60 it would make sense for that to be the point where it meets the first logo.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics_Graphic_Novel_Collection

I tried counting them but kept losing count.  So I went onto their website and looked at the spine pictures of each issue.