Book Subscription Extended Three Times Beyond Original Advertisement With No End In Sight

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AdamW1234 said:

Mnoee said:

AdamW1234 said:

theoretica said:

I get the satisfaction of complete sets, but don't expect the lack of completeness will be enough to get a full return and refund. Unfortunately for you consumer law doesn't take individual feelings into account much. It is like a trip or event advertised as last ever - but then they discover they can hold one the next year and won't refund the people who went the year before and happened to value the 'last' badge.

What is the difference in second hand sale price between the first 55 volumes of a larger set and the hypothetical only 55 volumes of a set (which was followed by set II and set III).  Not much I would expect.  Are the 180 volumes selling anywhere to people who want to get into the set now?  Cancelling your order and selling up the set that do not give you enjoyment might be the way to go.

The fact no one here acknowledges how an incomplete collection isn't a collection is beyond me. 

People collect different things for different reasons. Some people enjoy the thrill of hunting down rare things in an attempt to complete their collection, for example. Old coins, stamps, basically anything not made right now, plus things like sticker books or trading cards where artificial rarity is introduced. There are people with collections of certain pottery, or any pottery with elephants, or similar. Lots of people collect things with no set reason or goal. 

You seem think the only definition of a collection is 'exactly 55 graphic novels'. 

When a collection is advertised as 55 issues, it becomes factual that the collection is 55 issues.  

Do you not think that once the collection gets extended multiple times, said collectors down the line would no longer be interested in an incomplete collection if I had stopped at 55? 

Exactly.  

A collection is only complete at a specific moment in time; of course it can be extended later. 

I once bought a complete collection of Abba albums. They've now released another. Should I be due a refund, or compensation, because they have released a new album? Of course not, it's laughable to suggest such a thing. 

You bought a complete collection of 55 books. They subsequently released more. The same applies as my Abba collection.  

Diamandis

The time to challenge it would have been at issue 56 if you had a problem, I dont think you're views on the collection being incomplete if you stop buying them now would hold up in court, but by all means feel free to test that theory in small claims court.

ComicGeek

As someone who has also been collecting Eaglemoss collections (Marvel, Marvel super heroes, Judge Dredd & DC at one point!) on and off for a long time, they will always extend collections if sufficient interest. They even cycle back from the beginning again once they run out of ideas...

But I tend to read and then resell after a couple of years, rather than diligently collecting a whole series. You only have to look on eBay to see that there is a limited resell market for individual issues, but not at all for 'whole collections' - not for the inflated prices that people think they can get anyway. I was only looking last night, and they're not even selling for £1.50 each +p&p....

Carry on collecting if you want to, cancel if you don't (I cancelled at DC issue 76 a couple of years ago) - I don't see how you can get your money back though. I expect Eaglemoss will be back in touch once they realise PayPal has refunded you.

Just enjoy them for what they are, and then resell for what you can.

jon81uk

Is it this collection DC Comics Graphic Novel Collection | Eaglemoss
DC Comics Graphic Novel Collection - Wikipedia

The picture on the Eaglemoss site shows a complete image across the spines from the original 60 books. You could have stopped there? It was entirely your choice to keep purchasing. Don't think you have any case against them at all.

TELLIT01

The OP has stated that they knew they could cancel at any time, and that they have chosen not to do so.  I can't see any court supporting their claim.

pulliptears

If I'm understanding this correctly I can see his point.

Replace comic book with Jigsaw.
Seller offers a piece of the jigsaw puzzle a week with a completed jigsaw after 55 pieces.  If suddenly piece 55 wasn't the end of the jigsaw and didn't make the complete picture I'd be annoyed, the dilemma then being the sunken cost fallacy, do you cut your losses or carry on in the hope it stops soon?

All that said, I can't see a court supporting that either.

AdamW1234

pulliptears said:

If I'm understanding this correctly I can see his point.

Replace comic book with Jigsaw.
Seller offers a piece of the jigsaw puzzle a week with a completed jigsaw after 55 pieces.  If suddenly piece 55 wasn't the end of the jigsaw and didn't make the complete picture I'd be annoyed, the dilemma then being the sunken cost fallacy, do you cut your losses or carry on in the hope it stops soon?

All that said, I can't see a court supporting that either.

Thank you. 

I honestly didn't think this would be so hard to grasp. I am completely open to the possibility of a court not siding with me. I just cannot understand the ridicule on this forum. 

To say the least, I won't be posting here again. 

Aylesbury_Duck

pulliptears said:

If I'm understanding this correctly I can see his point.

Replace comic book with Jigsaw.
Seller offers a piece of the jigsaw puzzle a week with a completed jigsaw after 55 pieces.  If suddenly piece 55 wasn't the end of the jigsaw and didn't make the complete picture I'd be annoyed, the dilemma then being the sunken cost fallacy, do you cut your losses or carry on in the hope it stops soon?

All that said, I can't see a court supporting that either.

That was why I asked about the 55 issues and whether their stacked spines completed the  image as advertised.  I don't think OP ever answered that question, perhaps because the image was completed, and OP only seemed to want answers to back his viewpoint.  

With your jigsaw analogy, that would mean that the first 55 pieces complete the picture as shown on the box, but you have the option to buy another 125 pieces to extend the picture beyond that originally promised.

pulliptears

Aylesbury_Duck said:

pulliptears said:

If I'm understanding this correctly I can see his point.

Replace comic book with Jigsaw.
Seller offers a piece of the jigsaw puzzle a week with a completed jigsaw after 55 pieces.  If suddenly piece 55 wasn't the end of the jigsaw and didn't make the complete picture I'd be annoyed, the dilemma then being the sunken cost fallacy, do you cut your losses or carry on in the hope it stops soon?

All that said, I can't see a court supporting that either.

With your jigsaw analogy, that would mean that the first 55 pieces complete the picture as shown on the box, but you have the option to buy another 125 pieces to extend the picture beyond that originally promised.

I'm curious so I've had a google.  
There is a set of 97 for sale on eBay, and because my life is rather dull I've sat and counted and it would seem issue 55 is to the left of Superman and Riddler at the bottom run.  Looking at the image that surprised me, It would have been better to finish the run on the DC logo so it was standalone, but where 55 ends it does look incomplete.

Aylesbury_Duck

Bottom line is that if the first 55 issues weren't as described when you subscribed, you have a legitimate complaint.  That you subsequently chose to buy an additional 125 issues before addressing that complaint is your own problem.  You failed to mitigate your costs once the original error was apparent (if it was).