County Court Business Centre Claim Form - Here we go again!

KeithP

heroicsatsuma1 said:

 - issue date is 26/11/2021

With a Claim Issue Date of 26th November, you have until Wednesday 15th December to file an Acknowledgment of Service but there is nothing to be gained by delaying it. 

To file an AoS, follow the guidance in the Dropbox file linked from the second post in the NEWBIES thread.

Having filed an AoS in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Wednesday 29th December 2021 to file your Defence.

That's four weeks away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.

To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look again at the second post on the NEWBIES thread - immediately following where you found the Acknowledgment of Service instructions.

Don't miss the deadline for filing an Acknowledgment of Service, nor that for filing a Defence.

Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.

D_P_Dance

Too much pre prandial refreshment!

heroicsatsuma1

It says in POFA that:

The maximum sum which may be recovered from the keeper by virtue of the right conferred by this paragraph is the amount specified in the notice to keeper under paragraph 8(2)(c) or (d) or, as the case may be, 9(2)(d) (less any payments towards the unpaid parking charges which are received after the time so specified).

So some of the amounts must be non-chargeable because it's up to over £200 now

heroicsatsuma1

The first PCN says £40 discounted then £70 if not paid within 14 days - so the maximum they can charge is the £70 right - got a +£20 initial debt recovery on the final demand, which then rise to £54 that are 'detailed in the car park signage t&c's' once BW Legal get involved.

Coupon-mad

Guess I'll have to argue that £40/ then £70/ then £90 for 18 minutes additional parking seems a bit excessive. 

Wrong.  You'd lose.

YOU DO NOT HAVE NO LEGS TO STAND ON.  No-one said that.

Please stop, sit down and read what we've directed you to read.

Redx

Everyone has a leg to stand on , it's a case of finding it and using it

Up to now most of your conjecture and suppositions won't work , due to a lack of research

The Beavis case may provide some assistance , but not the excessive charge allegation

POFA assists a non driving keeper , not a Keeper who was also the driver

Poor and inadequate signage and no landowner authority are typical defence arguments , the CRA too , plus the relevant BPA CoP

Fruitcake

heroicsatsuma1 said:

The first PCN says £40 discounted then £70 if not paid within 14 days - so the maximum they can charge is the £70 right - got a +£20 initial debt recovery on the final demand, which then rise to £54 that are 'detailed in the car park signage t&c's' once BW Legal get involved.

No, it's £70 plus permitted legal costs of £75 - £100. Anything else is fake add on amounts.

heroicsatsuma1

Sorry for the panic guys - got the defence template - will go through this soon as I can - also found some photos I took on returning to the car park is it ok to post them here?

Fruitcake

Yes, please post photos but redact your VRM.

Please tell us where the alleged event as it may have cropped up here before.

What happened when you complained to the landowner? This is always Plan A, and it is never too late to do it.

heroicsatsuma1

Purley Way Retail Park, Croydon