National Parking Control - Permits ?

Jason2342

So I am about to send an email to NPC with this: 

Good afternoon,

I am writing to you as one of the residents at Stillwater Drive, Manchester. I have recently received a letter from the managing agent, INFORMING us of a new car park managing company - NPC. 

According to the Landlord and tenant act of 1987, the managing agent is required to propose the fact that there is an ammendment to the leasehold agreement, instead of imposing your company onto us, which is something I will take up with them.

Having read that letter, you are asking to have a copy of a V5 document or a insurance policy document. As a private company, I am extremely uncomfortable with providing you with that information as to me, that is sensitive information. 

I would be willing to provide you with a utility bil or some form of an ID (not a driving license) as proof that I am a resident here and also provide you with the license plate of the vehicle, which is all you need in order to issue a permit.

The reason I am only emailing you now, is because the managing agent has failed to give notice or consult with the residents of Stillwater drive, hence not leaving enough time. 


Please let me know if this sounds okay, I'm sure there are alot of more knowledgeable people on here who could do a better job, but again - I'm a newbie lol. 

Coupon-mad

Too polite.

Also, add a timeline and refuse to accept any terms, including terms on signs, until such time as the MA has undertaken the consultation.

I gave you a stronger form of words earlier, didn't I? You could even say the residents do not accept ANY IPC firm, given that the IAS is (by thousands of accounts plus their own Annual Report that boasted only allowing 4% of consumer farcical 'appeals') a kangaroo court and if you had any parking firm you'd want to continue to have POPLA or next year, the new statutory appeals service ONLY.

Main urgent step is to knock on doors, create a Neighbours WhatsApp group and refuse to accept NPC at all and tell them and the MA the residents refuse to allow this interference with their rights and easements relating to parking.  Quote the neighbour's two court wins v Care Parking and state that 'we the undersigned refuse to provide our sensitive data to NPC or any parking firm at all.

Residents must insist that ALL so called parking management is on hold until the MA addresses our concerns and obtains the necessary percentages of consent required in the Landlord & Tenant Act (quote the section).

Do this immediately, tonight, snd call an emergency Zoom meeting of residents so they realise what this will be - IPC firms have no appeal worth trying (4% allowed and zero mitigating circumstances) and many are shown to set out to target residents whose permit mysteriously slip iff dashboards.

Those who own their flats have a grant of a bay anyway so there is no contract on offer of anything of value to them, only risk of being sued. No-one should sign this.

What you need is a barrier and keyfob system. Far cheaper than £100 PCNs and being bullied and sued.

Thrugelmir

Coupon-mad said:

All they need is a gate or barrier and resident keyfobs, not NPC.

Basic entry system using fobs alone won't stop misuse. How much are the leaseholders prepared to pay for installation and ongoing maintenance. 

D_P_Dance

Ignore, let them take you to court, counter-claim, and win

Coupon-mad

Thrugelmir said:

Coupon-mad said:

All they need is a gate or barrier and resident keyfobs, not NPC.

Basic entry system using fobs alone won't stop misuse. How much are the leaseholders prepared to pay for installation and ongoing maintenance. 

Which PPC do you work for, you've never said?  but you always post here to put people off suggestions that they do not need a PPC.

A keyfob System, including annual maintenance, is common in residential.car parks and of value to the security of the estate, and FAR cheaper than the amount of £100 then £270 demands snd claims EVERY RESIDENT and taxi driver,  visitor, nurse, cleaner, carer, postie or delivery driver there will get from this weekend, with no appeal that will work.

THIS MUST BE STOPPED BEFORE IT STARTS. 

Jason2342

Coupon-mad said:

Too polite.

Also, add a timeline and refuse to accept any terms, including terms on signs, until such time as the MA has undertaken the consultation.

I gave you a stronger form of words earlier, didn't I? You could even say the residents do not accept ANY IPC firm, given that the IAS is (by thousands of accounts plus their own Annual Report that boasted only allowing 4% of consumer farcical 'appeals') a kangaroo court and if you had any parking firm you'd want to continue to have POPLA or next year, the new statutory appeals service ONLY.

Main urgent step is to knock on doors, create a Neighbours WhatsApp group and refuse to accept NPC at all and tell them and the MA the residents refuse to allow this interference with their rights and easements relating to parking.  Quote the neighbour's two court wins v Care Parking and state that 'we the undersigned refuse to provide our sensitive data to NPC or any parking firm at all.

Residents must insist that ALL so called parking management is on hold until the MA addresses our concerns and obtains the necessary percentages of consent required in the Landlord & Tenant Act (quote the section).

Do this immediately, tonight, snd call an emergency Zoom meeting of residents so they realise what this will be - IPC firms have no appeal worth trying (4% allowed and zero mitigating circumstances) and many are shown to set out to target residents whose permit mysteriously slip iff dashboards.

Those who own their flats have a grant of a bay anyway so there is no contract on offer of anything of value to them, only risk of being sued. No-one should sign this.

What you need is a barrier and keyfob system. Far cheaper than £100 PCNs and being bullied and sued.

I have only spoken to a few of them, and I'm 99% sure that most of them have already sent copies of whatever so it's a losing battle on that front. It's due on Friday so not enough time even if I knocked on doors and most here don't want the hassle.

Jason2342

Thrugelmir said:

Coupon-mad said:

All they need is a gate or barrier and resident keyfobs, not NPC.

Basic entry system using fobs alone won't stop misuse. How much are the leaseholders prepared to pay for installation and ongoing maintenance. 

There is a code keypad and a automatic gate already in place, codes get changed once a year but within a month all sorts of people have the code so it's pointless anyway, people always find a way in and end up parking on people's car bays, I've had BT numerous times just park their van in my spot while I'm out. 

D_P_Dance

I think our push button barrier cost iro £9,000  for about 100 flats,  

Coupon-mad

Everyone will get hassle from an IPC firm.  

So you have a barrier system already and just need keyfobs instead of codes.

You must put a timeline on your communications snd make it clear you are not agreeing to ANY contractual terms at all until the issues are resolved to your satisfaction and you require your parking bay number xx to be opted out from any enforcement but NPC's ticketer's vehicle IS NOT allowed to park in it. If they do you will charge them.