New tv sound problem

Heedtheadvice

"I noticed in the specifications it has downward firing speakers - might not be good depending on how the TV is set up, could be reflecting / resonating from whatever you have it mounted on......" exactly @[Deleted User] .

Just what I referred to in my earlier post but the OP seems to have ignored that entirely. Also exacerbated by cloth ears which we all sometimes get as the years pass and need an extra bit of what is often termed ' presence ' in the sound the area of the audio spectrum usually absorbed by many a non hard surface upsetting the frequency balance of the sound thus reducing clarity.(no comnent intended on the OP 's age or hearing ability but more a general fact of life)

Sometimes though brick walls and head and waste of effort spring to mind..... but then again there are often conflicting posts in such a forum and a reader might not see the wood for the trees.

The fact that it was written by the OP that some apps (for that do we read programmes?) produce variability points to the other fact that audio quality produced at broadcast ( rather than home reproduction) is at fault -not entirely that of the tv - though if it is not good at all will exacerbate the poorer quality audio material. That was why I mentioned setting up on a good known source. That enables one to tweak more then to add a bit of improvement if there is any capability left though it is not usually possible to cater for all variability at source.

 That spare audio adjustment capacity is maybe unlikely if those speakers fire into a non reflective surface (acoustically in the higher and mid range frequencies) or is masked by a surface close to the speakers or it sits in a corner boosting the bass (moving away from a wall or desktop or corner for example can help significantly especially with non forward facing speakers for these aspects). Even very high standard audio speakers benefit from proper positioning, it is not just a tv thing!!

As mentioned before my LG tv is positioned close to a room corner (for practical reasons) and I need to set with max bass cut (reduction) plus some treble boost for my cloth ears.

ripplyuk

Heedtheadvice said:

"I noticed in the specifications it has downward firing speakers - might not be good depending on how the TV is set up, could be reflecting / resonating from whatever you have it mounted on......" exactly @[Deleted User] .

Just what I referred to in my earlier post but the OP seems to have ignored that entirely. 

@Heedtheadvice I did not ignore your advice 🙂. There’s just not a lot I can do about where the tv is positioned. It’s a very small house. I found different settings on it that can be changed for tv’s on a stand or wall mounted so I tried that. Mine is on a wooden stand in the corner, but not shoved right into the corner. The ‘tv stand 2’ seems best (but still not great). I tried adjusting things while playing radio 4, like you suggested. 

With the apps, I mean that Netflix (everything on Netflix) sounds different to Amazon Prime and Disney + is different again. Actually Disney is definitely the best. They’re the main three I watch so I’ve focused on getting the settings right for each of them but it means I have to change the settings each time I change to a different app, which is annoying. 

I know my hearing is extremely sensitive so I might be noticing things that wouldn’t bother other people but the buzz/tinny sound would be obvious to anyone. With the lower frequencies turned down as much as possible, it’s bearable so I’m hoping I’ll get used to it. 

Carrot007

[Deleted User] said:

To be honest all flat screen TV's are a big compromise for speakers because they should be firing towards the listener but that went out of fashion with CRT's.

Simply not true, however the more recent demand for cheaper bigger tv's has meant they compromise becuase you have the option of a soundbar.

trouble is they also do it on expensive tv's still saying people do not want a edge! I'd love one, though at the bottom not at the sides like they used to, an integrated sound bar if you like!

Fortunatly on my last upgrade (LG to LG) they had moved on from the back facing which was always a terrible idea to down facing which works (at least in my setup) enopugh that I am happy. (My old LG was 40 inch very heavy and wide massive side fronty facing speakers, my new is 50 inch takes up the same space (though as said I would not mind a lip at the bottom with !!!!!! it was the width that needed to go), so much better).

[Deleted User]

Carrot007 said:

[Deleted User] said:

To be honest all flat screen TV's are a big compromise for speakers because they should be firing towards the listener but that went out of fashion with CRT's.

Simply not true, however the more recent demand for cheaper bigger tv's has meant they compromise because you have the option of a soundbar.

trouble is they also do it on expensive tv's still saying people do not want a edge! I'd love one, though at the bottom not at the sides like they used to, an integrated sound bar if you like!

Speakers definitely should be firing towards the listener if that's what you meant by "simply not true", the rest I agree with though. Reflected sound is never as as pure as direct from the source.

Furthermore the "cabinet" for the speakers is totally unsuitable in modern TV's, not enough air volume, totally wrong for good acoustics. Even speaker bars compromise that a lot unless the have a separate sub.

Heedtheadvice

@ripplyuk Apologies if I got the wrong impression.

It could still be that you are still positioned too close to the corner. If you have the bass turned right down (compared to the treble) on your equalizer, cannot move the tv and several progs are still unacceptable (they do try and enhance the sound often very unsuitably so) then as previous posters have suggested it seem that a different tv (that you can hear on demo) or similarly a sound bar might be the answer. Perhaps try with a decent pair of headphones might help you find a set that has the necessary clarity for comparison purposes?