How do I get this light fitting off to change Halogen ceiling lightbulbs

another_casualty

Section62 said:

another_casualty said:

I do wonder though if the inventor of this particular light fitting is still with us , or did he die of electrocution ..

They should definitely be charged with something....

Most definitely 😺

Sandtree

another_casualty said:

Looking at that video shown above , I do think that the bulbs are the same standard GU10
Getting them out to confirm is the problem .

I'm wondering if the whole unit has to be replaced , or just the lightbulb .

Either it has a very unusual GU10 bulb in it or the whole unit has to be replaced... getting it out eventually will tell you.

These whole unit things seem to be getting increasingly popular, and I understand some lampshade shapes etc wouldnt be possible with a standard bulb but these types of things that could easily have a standard bulb just seem to be profiteering as you'll inevitably struggle finding a matching unit and potentially end up having to replace more lamps to keep the consistent look.

Bendy_House

another_casualty said:

I did get as far as following your lead of pushing the lightbulb inwards while not rotating the fitting sleeve ( that's what I'll call it ) . I tried more forceful pressure pulling the fitting down by the fitting sleeve . The thing is , unless you are experienced in this particular type of obstructive fitting the feeling I get is that if I were to pull the whole thing down ( which is impossible at present ) it may lead to other problems . 

Damn, so 'GRRRRR' didn't work? That's it - I'm out of ideas.

Not sure I follow what you mean by "pushing the lightbulb inwards"? The only thing(s) you push inwards are the springs. Even that isn't strictly speaking necessary - they'll just go 'twang' as they come all the way out - but it's recommended so as to prevent the springs causing damage to either you or the ceiling.

Ookayyy - tomorrow, could you pull a fitting out as far as you've dared to so far, and then take a side-on photo of what can be seen? And if the 'as far as you've dared' is less than a half-inch, be ashamed... :-)

youth_leader

Have you had a look on YouTube, I found a helpful video for my spotlights.  Saying that, I hope you can change to LED without having to change the transformers.  I've just purchased a bungalow with 17 halogen spotlights and a few went, when I replaced with LED's they wouldn't work.  The electrician explained the transformers were for 50w, and wouldn't work with the 5w LED's.  I had to have them all changed, £300 I didn't expect to spend. 

another_casualty

Okay … the item I purchased wasn’t the right thing . Fair enough. 

Anyhow , after turning off the light fuses in the power supply and shouting words similar to duck it , I have made some sort of progress . 

Yes the poxy light fitting does need to be changed opposed to just the lightbulb 

I pulled the fitting out with sheer grit and determination. I am currently covered in said grit.

so, how do I actually detach the fitting from the transformer? ?
please once again enlighten me ..

another_casualty

..and yes those clips did bang very loudly when pulling from the ceiling 

another_casualty

More pics 

Ganga

I do not know the answer but well done on getting the light out of the ceiling , you will be a expert DIYer before you know it.
Just an idea but if you pull the light fitting out a bit more will you not see the transformer and the plug ?

FreeBear

another_casualty said: so, how do I actually detach the fitting from the transformer? ?

please once again enlighten me ..

From your second set of images, you have a black block in the middle of the cable - This may well be a plug & socket that just pulls apart. There might be a locking lug that needs pressing in... There also appears to be a junction box (round white thing) up in the ceiling. If this isn't fixed in place, that gives you a second spot to disconnect. Finally, where the cable disappears in to the light fitting, there is a small cover that looks like it unclips (held in place by a screw ?). Remove this cover, and there may well be some screw terminals underneath.

If all else fails, just cut the ruddy cable close to the lamp and use a terminal block & junction box to connect the new fitting to.

another_casualty

Ganga said:

I do not know the answer but well done on getting the light out of the ceiling , you will be a expert DIYer before you know it.
Just an idea but if you pull the light fitting out a bit more will you not see the transformer and the plug ?

That's the thing with wiring , standing on steps and literally trying to avoid massive catastrophic damage.  If I get too bold and have had enough, it could be an even worse situation than it is now ..