Sold a vehicle that I have been told in unroadworthy

theoretica

Also be prepared - some lawyers are very happy to write letters as instructed.  'My client is very unhappy with the car you sold him and wants his money back.'  This has no more standing than what the buyer has already said and does not mean that the lawyer actually thinks the buyer has a good legal case, just that they have been paid to write a letter.

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Coop1234567890 said:

1 Excessive play in both front link bars
2 One front wheel bearing excessive play
3 Rear brake discs warped
4 A couple of slight oil leaks

5 Any a few other cosmetic things.

1 Probably not even an MOT fail, suspension joints are allowed some movement, only a few pounds for new links anyway.

2 Could have failed at any time, even on the journey to the buyers house. Not much money.

3 if they were bad enough for MOT fail, you'd know as the pedal would shake when you brake, slight warpage is allowed.

4 so what? could have been seen before purchase by looking underneath, not an MOT fail unless spewing out.

5 that could have been spotted before purchase.

Just people who read consumer advice and expect a warranted brand new car when they are paying a fraction of the price for an old worn one off someones drive. Ignore them, if you do get any court paperwork, or a Letter Before Action, come back for advice.

scrappy_returns

ontheroad1970 said:

Keep your copy of the MOT safe, and any other paperwork to do with the sale, and sit tight.  Make no further contact with the buyer.  File any other stuff that comes through the door - don't throw it away, especially if it is a brown envelope with a Northampton postal frank.  Block their number.  If they call at your door, do not engage in any conversation with them, beyond telling them to leave.  

You are a private seller and are assumed to not haver the knowledge that a dealer should have.  Even if it were to go to court, the odds are in your favour.  Don't allow them to unsettle you any further,  and just block them.

The mot will be available online for all to see, as will older ones if of a relevant age, meaning any casual viewer can build up a picture of vehicle condition.

neilmcl

scrappy_returns said:

ontheroad1970 said:

Keep your copy of the MOT safe, and any other paperwork to do with the sale, and sit tight.  Make no further contact with the buyer.  File any other stuff that comes through the door - don't throw it away, especially if it is a brown envelope with a Northampton postal frank.  Block their number.  If they call at your door, do not engage in any conversation with them, beyond telling them to leave.  

You are a private seller and are assumed to not haver the knowledge that a dealer should have.  Even if it were to go to court, the odds are in your favour.  Don't allow them to unsettle you any further,  and just block them.

The mot will be available online for all to see, as will older ones if of a relevant age, meaning any casual viewer can build up a picture of vehicle condition.

Only if you have the VIN number.

wongataa

neilmcl said:

scrappy_returns said:

ontheroad1970 said:

Keep your copy of the MOT safe, and any other paperwork to do with the sale, and sit tight.  Make no further contact with the buyer.  File any other stuff that comes through the door - don't throw it away, especially if it is a brown envelope with a Northampton postal frank.  Block their number.  If they call at your door, do not engage in any conversation with them, beyond telling them to leave.  

You are a private seller and are assumed to not haver the knowledge that a dealer should have.  Even if it were to go to court, the odds are in your favour.  Don't allow them to unsettle you any further,  and just block them.

The mot will be available online for all to see, as will older ones if of a relevant age, meaning any casual viewer can build up a picture of vehicle condition.

Only if you have the VIN number.

Incorrect, you just need the registration number.

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Don't worry, you are not on the hook for anything and certainly didn't break the law. Just block their number and move on.

neilmcl

wongataa said:

neilmcl said:

scrappy_returns said:

ontheroad1970 said:

Keep your copy of the MOT safe, and any other paperwork to do with the sale, and sit tight.  Make no further contact with the buyer.  File any other stuff that comes through the door - don't throw it away, especially if it is a brown envelope with a Northampton postal frank.  Block their number.  If they call at your door, do not engage in any conversation with them, beyond telling them to leave.  

You are a private seller and are assumed to not haver the knowledge that a dealer should have.  Even if it were to go to court, the odds are in your favour.  Don't allow them to unsettle you any further,  and just block them.

The mot will be available online for all to see, as will older ones if of a relevant age, meaning any casual viewer can build up a picture of vehicle condition.

Only if you have the VIN number.

Incorrect, you just need the registration number.

I was referring to being able to see the MOT certificate.

Jenni_D

neilmcl said:

wongataa said:

neilmcl said:

scrappy_returns said:

ontheroad1970 said:

Keep your copy of the MOT safe, and any other paperwork to do with the sale, and sit tight.  Make no further contact with the buyer.  File any other stuff that comes through the door - don't throw it away, especially if it is a brown envelope with a Northampton postal frank.  Block their number.  If they call at your door, do not engage in any conversation with them, beyond telling them to leave.  

You are a private seller and are assumed to not haver the knowledge that a dealer should have.  Even if it were to go to court, the odds are in your favour.  Don't allow them to unsettle you any further,  and just block them.

The mot will be available online for all to see, as will older ones if of a relevant age, meaning any casual viewer can build up a picture of vehicle condition.

Only if you have the VIN number.

Incorrect, you just need the registration number.

I was referring to being able to see the MOT certificate.

https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/

The statement was "The mot will be available online for all to see, as will older ones if of a relevant age, meaning any casual viewer can build up a picture of vehicle condition". The above link allows you to see the pass/fail history (including what failed and any advisories) using only the VRM.  

Saus007

I have had a similar situation, but it turned out worse!  My daughter sold her car three days after a service, where it was road tested and had just passed its MOT.  The buyer did not drive the car, but examined it and paid Paypal.  Three weeks later she said it was unroadworthy and a dispute was raised with Paypal.  Apparently as she paid Paypal with a credit card, they refunded her money and the money was deducted from my daughter's Paypal account.  We have not been given until Friday to collect they car, which apparently will require a recovery vehicle as they say it is unroadworthy.  Fraud Action not interested, Paypal not interested, Citizens Advice hopeless.  Concerned that if we do collect the car, are we accepting responsibility.  If we don't collect the car she has no car, no money and it could be scrapped!

jimjames

neilmcl said:

wongataa said:

neilmcl said:

scrappy_returns said:

ontheroad1970 said:

Keep your copy of the MOT safe, and any other paperwork to do with the sale, and sit tight.  Make no further contact with the buyer.  File any other stuff that comes through the door - don't throw it away, especially if it is a brown envelope with a Northampton postal frank.  Block their number.  If they call at your door, do not engage in any conversation with them, beyond telling them to leave.  

You are a private seller and are assumed to not haver the knowledge that a dealer should have.  Even if it were to go to court, the odds are in your favour.  Don't allow them to unsettle you any further,  and just block them.

The mot will be available online for all to see, as will older ones if of a relevant age, meaning any casual viewer can build up a picture of vehicle condition.

Only if you have the VIN number.

Incorrect, you just need the registration number.

I was referring to being able to see the MOT certificate.

You can see the MOT history with the registration only. The only thing you can't see is the testing station details but you don't need the VRM for that, you need the V5 reference