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Effician

Didn't realize nuclear power stations don't like hot weather.

https://www3.theedgemarkets.com/article/france-curb-nuclear-power-europes-crisis-worsens

Mstty

Effician said:

Didn't realize nuclear power stations don't like hot weather.

https://www3.theedgemarkets.com/article/france-curb-nuclear-power-europes-crisis-worsens

Nuclear reaction doesn't care about the weather(just look at the sun...carefully) it just gets hotter and hotter until it melts power plants.

Warm water and low levels in the rivers are the issue and cooling down reactors before they go melty melt melt.

MattMattMattUK

Mstty said:

Effician said:

Didn't realize nuclear power stations don't like hot weather.

https://www3.theedgemarkets.com/article/france-curb-nuclear-power-europes-crisis-worsens

Nuclear reaction doesn't care about the weather(just look at the sun...carefully) it just gets hotter and hotter until it melts power plants.

Warm water and low levels in the rivers are the issue and cooling down reactors before they go melty melt melt.

Exactly why we should be building plants using water drawn from the sea rather than rivers or aquifers. When it comes to the need for fresh water it would be best to build an on site desalination system using reverse osmosis, powered by the plant itself (with backup generation), it would use less than 0.2% of the plants total electrical output. 

wakeupalarm

Effician said:

Didn't realize nuclear power stations don't like hot weather.

https://www3.theedgemarkets.com/article/france-curb-nuclear-power-europes-crisis-worsens

Nor do wind turbines
https://twitter.com/i/status/1554734523312750592

Sea_Shell

I posted this elsewhere, but wonder if anyone knows the answer to this general "cap" question?



On the point of "average" or "typical" user etc.

How often is this reviewed/calculated?

Surely, over the next 12 months, nearly everyone (unless money is no object) will be trying to shave some kWhs off their usage, with some making (or having to make) huge changes.

So today's average is probably higher than the equivalent average will be this time next year.

Could this create an artificial lowering of the reported cap in ££££, unless they keep that metric unaltered. The devil's in the detail 😉

pochase

You just posted this here

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6376307/i-wish-i-hadnt-followed-martins-advice-not-to-fix-my-energy-deal#latest

And same answer I posted there

I doubt that it will be recalculated.

The average 12000/2900 used by Ofgem was never the average UK user, cannot be because how do you want to calculate alone the possible variations as how many bedrooms, detached, flat, terraced etc.

The 12000/2900 is just a calculation method that is used to calculate the cap to have one single amount. It does not matter if the average is correct to high or to low, as long as you stick with the agreed numbers, that allow a one amount comparison between caps.

If you would recalculate it every few months you can no longer compare the cap figure by saying £1957 to £3500. It would be £1957 to £2500 because people are saving energy, and that would be very misleading.

Ofgem also has more realistic usage figures for example here

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/sites/default/files/docs/2013/06/beyond-average-consumption-summary-doc_updated-june13_0.pdf

Sea_Shell

I can see the obvious reason for always using the same usage figures for reporting the cap.

However, as we've seen around these boards, many people think (assume) they are typical, when they are anything but.

If the "cap" uses figures that never change, they will gradually drift away from being any way representative, and become more useless than they currently are IMO.

[Deleted User]

Sea_Shell said:

I posted this elsewhere, but wonder if anyone knows the answer to this general "cap" question?



On the point of "average" or "typical" user etc.

How often is this reviewed/calculated?

Surely, over the next 12 months, nearly everyone (unless money is no object) will be trying to shave some kWhs off their usage, with some making (or having to make) huge changes.

So today's average is probably higher than the equivalent average will be this time next year.

Could this create an artificial lowering of the reported cap in ££££, unless they keep that metric unaltered. The devil's in the detail 😉

A good question. Ofgem reviewed TDCV (Typical Domestic Consumption Values) last year to take into account the impact of COVID.

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/sites/default/files/docs/2021/05/tdcv_decision_letter_2021_0.pdf

Sea_Shell

[Deleted User] said:

Sea_Shell said:

I posted this elsewhere, but wonder if anyone knows the answer to this general "cap" question?



On the point of "average" or "typical" user etc.

How often is this reviewed/calculated?

Surely, over the next 12 months, nearly everyone (unless money is no object) will be trying to shave some kWhs off their usage, with some making (or having to make) huge changes.

So today's average is probably higher than the equivalent average will be this time next year.

Could this create an artificial lowering of the reported cap in ££££, unless they keep that metric unaltered. The devil's in the detail 😉

A good question. Ofgem reviewed TDCV (Typical Domestic Consumption Values) last year to take into account the impact of COVID.

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/sites/default/files/docs/2021/05/tdcv_decision_letter_2021_0.pdf

Thanks.    

Very interesting.

Coffeekup

agentcain .

What do you expect customers do? Do you think people enjoy keeping the heat in winter or the AC on in summer with windows open? How exactly are we wasting energy and we need a shock? There's not much left to reduce. 

I disagree there's plenty of posts on this forum where people can't figure out why their energy usage is so high or where it's going.There is also people that can afford the price rises and don't see a need to change their habits.