Caught by Police using a handheld speed gun

sand_hun

@Jenni_D @ontheroad1970 It wasn't me, although I can see why you may perceive it as such. I'm anti-speeding and am part of a police backed community speedwatch group.

photome

a colleague of mine recvd his speeding notification about 3 months after the offence... he has a company lease car where the lease had changed hands  which slowed the process down

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sand_hun said:

It was a company vehicle. Any paperwork would have gone to his work address but he says they haven't received anything. There was an officer with a speed gun, a motorcycle cop and 2 marked cars - yet he was not pulled over despite the fact he's certain they observed him speeding.

Judging by the comments above it sounds like he might have got away with it, since the alleged offence happened 6 weeks ago.

The TruCam II has built in ANPR and records evidential HD video overlaid with speed info ready to upload to a central location that prints the letters, so there is no need for an exciting Police Interceptor chase, ( unless it is 180mph or something ), or there is additional ANPR on site that flags no insurance.

If they picked a "good" spot, they could be clocking hundreds of speeders per hour, it isn't worth stopping them if they don't have to.

The TruCam II works in the dark too...

Grumpy_chap

Does anyone know whether, when there is a Community Speedwatch Area, manned by volunteers with a "gun", can they actually issue speeding penalties (NIP), or just warning letters?  

I am a bit nervous following passing through such an area last week.  I noticed they wrote something down as I passed, but may that is just to write me a letter of thanks for being lovely:)

It's really that I was in my wife's car, so if she receives a letter saying I was going too fast, then I'm in for a right ear-bashing

I guess the 14-days would still apply if they can write?

Car_54

Grumpy_chap said:

Does anyone know whether, when there is a Community Speedwatch Area, manned by volunteers with a "gun", can they actually issue speeding penalties (NIP), or just warning letters?  

I am a bit nervous following passing through such an area last week.  I noticed they wrote something down as I passed, but may that is just to write me a letter of thanks for being lovely:)

It's really that I was in my wife's car, so if she receives a letter saying I was going too fast, then I'm in for a right ear-bashing

I guess the 14-days would still apply if they can write?

No doubt the police could issue a NIP based on the volunteers' evidence, but AFAIK they don't. If they send you a warning letter there is no time limit.

sand_hun

Grumpy_chap said:

Does anyone know whether, when there is a Community Speedwatch Area, manned by volunteers with a "gun", can they actually issue speeding penalties (NIP), or just warning letters?  

They will have been writing down your number plate details and the make of your vehicle. At worst, you will receive a warning letter (and a telling off from your wife).

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sand_hun said:

Grumpy_chap said:

Does anyone know whether, when there is a Community Speedwatch Area, manned by volunteers with a "gun", can they actually issue speeding penalties (NIP), or just warning letters?  

They will have been writing down your number plate details and the make of your vehicle. At worst, you will receive a warning letter (and a telling off from your wife).

Yes, you can safely ignore them. They rarely have any clue how to properly operate the speed gun, and even on the very best days it's unreliable and likely to produce inaccurate readings.

Get yourself a dashcam with GPS feature that records your speed on the video. Then if you have any issues in future you can review the video to see if you were actually speeding, and then decide what to do.

ontheroad1970

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sand_hun said:

Grumpy_chap said:

Does anyone know whether, when there is a Community Speedwatch Area, manned by volunteers with a "gun", can they actually issue speeding penalties (NIP), or just warning letters?  

They will have been writing down your number plate details and the make of your vehicle. At worst, you will receive a warning letter (and a telling off from your wife).

Yes, you can safely ignore them. They rarely have any clue how to properly operate the speed gun, and even on the very best days it's unreliable and likely to produce inaccurate readings.

Get yourself a dashcam with GPS feature that records your speed on the video. Then if you have any issues in future you can review the video to see if you were actually speeding, and then decide what to do.

Again, as the GPS speed is not in real time, it is of very little use.

Ectophile

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sand_hun said:

Grumpy_chap said:

Does anyone know whether, when there is a Community Speedwatch Area, manned by volunteers with a "gun", can they actually issue speeding penalties (NIP), or just warning letters?  

They will have been writing down your number plate details and the make of your vehicle. At worst, you will receive a warning letter (and a telling off from your wife).

Yes, you can safely ignore them. They rarely have any clue how to properly operate the speed gun, and even on the very best days it's unreliable and likely to produce inaccurate readings.

Get yourself a dashcam with GPS feature that records your speed on the video. Then if you have any issues in future you can review the video to see if you were actually speeding, and then decide what to do.

If it ends up in court, the police will be able to produce a training record for the officer who was using the gun, and a calibration certificate for the speed gun itself.

You will have a recording on a dashcam, which will come with no calibration information.

Which do you think the courts will accept?

Manxman_in_exile

Ectophile said:

[Deleted User] said:

sand_hun said:

Grumpy_chap said:

Does anyone know whether, when there is a Community Speedwatch Area, manned by volunteers with a "gun", can they actually issue speeding penalties (NIP), or just warning letters?  

They will have been writing down your number plate details and the make of your vehicle. At worst, you will receive a warning letter (and a telling off from your wife).

Yes, you can safely ignore them. They rarely have any clue how to properly operate the speed gun, and even on the very best days it's unreliable and likely to produce inaccurate readings.

Get yourself a dashcam with GPS feature that records your speed on the video. Then if you have any issues in future you can review the video to see if you were actually speeding, and then decide what to do.

If it ends up in court, the police will be able to produce a training record for the officer who was using the gun, and a calibration certificate for the speed gun itself.

You will have a recording on a dashcam, which will come with no calibration information.

Which do you think the courts will accept?

I think you've misunderstood what rigolith said?  They weren't talking about trained police officers using laser guns, they were talking about untrained volunteers in a Community Speedwatch Area.  I doubt that anything would end up in court based on their evidence alone.