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Clocked Car

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  • Grumpy_chap
    Grumpy_chap Posts: 18,772 Forumite
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    k3lvc said:
    Only if it's changed hands at a higher mileage (and unlikely it did)

    Scenario : Airport chauffeur buys 9 month old ex-demo fully loaded Mercedes at reasonable price with 10k miles, runs it 24/7 and puts another 90k on it in 2 years having it serviced either off-grid or with false mileages in book then winds back to 30k miles before selling just under 3yrs (or putting a fresh MOT on before selling)
    I think it likely did change hands at the higher mileage and the scenario given does not seem to apply.  The OP gives the following evidence for this:


    I bought a Mercedes Eclass 2018 for £29,995 on September 11th 2021 on Finance Hire Purchase (£16000 on Finance) 
    Mileage Car was sold at 44600

    On the 13 September i took the car for a service at Mercedes they confirmed the Car has done 102K with 7 pervious history with Mercedes   

    Evidence which i have 

    Pervious adverts from Auto Trader showing the mileage at 102k 
    Mercedes Cloud service history 
    independent vehicle assment ( they didnt confirm 102k miles they said its higher than whats displayed. 
    Mercedes Plausibility check which shows IMPLAUSIBLE 
    also Mercedes connected to the via Diagnostic Machine (Xentry) and have found old service info saved on the cars ECU adding to 102k 

    The issue with the mileage discrepancy appearing (or not) on an HPI check will be whether the sale at 102k miles was recorded by the vendor on the V5 when they sent the (presumably) sold to trade slip off to DVLA and / or whether the MOT was carried out before or after the mileage adjustment occurred.

    It is quite possible that the vendor (at 102k miles) either did not log mileage on the slip or, if they did, the DVLA did not process before the Dealer buying the car had adjusted the mileage, taken the car for MOT and then sold swiftly on to the OP at 44k miles.  Given the delays for DVLA processing anything plus the high demand for used cars right now, that scenario seems plausible.

    I wonder whether the OP did their own HPI check (or equivalent) prior to buying the vehicle?  Sometimes, these vehicle checks come with a guarantee which protects the person buying the vehicle against inaccurate data.  I understand, if the HPI check was done by the Dealer, then any such protection would be for the Dealer's benefit and not the OP.
  • MysteryMe
    MysteryMe Posts: 3,470 Forumite
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    Report the matter to Trading Standards as well. Car clockers rarely stop at one vehicle. 
  • If the facts were as you say then that was always going to be the result.  Clear case of car not as described when sold by a dealer.  No requirement for you to carry out any checks at all.
  • It cost me £390 to do all the checks 
    finance company gave me £100 good will gesture 

    Can i claim the rest back
  • flashg67
    flashg67 Posts: 4,143 Forumite
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    It cost me £390 to do all the checks 
    finance company gave me £100 good will gesture 

    Can i claim the rest back
    Are any of these checks ones that you could  have done before buying the car and incurred the cost anyway? Worth asking but I'd be tempted to breath a huge sigh of relief and move on!
  • sheslookinhot
    sheslookinhot Posts: 2,342 Forumite
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    edited 17 October 2021 at 10:58AM
    Too late now, but a brand new E Class would not have been much more than 30k.

    Nevertheless, a great result for OP.
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  • Manxman_in_exile
    Manxman_in_exile Posts: 8,380 Forumite
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    edited 17 October 2021 at 11:51AM
    flashg67 said:
    It cost me £390 to do all the checks 
    finance company gave me £100 good will gesture 

    Can i claim the rest back
    Are any of these checks ones that you could  have done before buying the car and incurred the cost anyway? Worth asking but I'd be tempted to breath a huge sigh of relief and move on!
    When buying from a dealer there's no requirement on the consumer to make any checks at all, so whether or not they "could have done" is irrelevant.  A consumer is entitled to rely on the dealer's description.

    If the consumer has incurred £390 additional expense to verify that the dealer had misdescribed the car, then he ought to be able to claim that additional expenditure back as it stems directly from the dealer's misdescription.  Whether the OP thinks it worthwhile or not is up to him.

    (Of course, what the OP should have done is told the finance company at the outset that he wanted his additional expenses reimbursed along with the purchase price etc.  For £390 - £290 if you count the goodwill gesture - I'd certainly point out to the finance company that I'm still out of pocket!)
  • MysteryMe said:
    Report the matter to Trading Standards as well. Car clockers rarely stop at one vehicle. 
    And the police. It's a criminal offense.
  • nyermen
    nyermen Posts: 1,142 Forumite
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    7 services in 3 years, even with lockdowns?  Not OP's issue any more, but I suspect there's a little more to this.  Or maybe the car was on a short mileage service plan for some reason.
    Peter

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