Pipe & Cable Detector

Another_Level

Tbh, the question has been answered in the second post    My input (its a hidden redundant live gas pipe of soft vulnerable material) 


Please have that gas pipe run disconnected at where it was Teed into the household gas run. Hey you know it makes sense. 

Natural gas will burn your !!!!!! 

Eldi_Dos

As well as having disconnected at tee have redundant pipe removed to save any confusion or issues in the future, it's only a few mm in wall so should not be too difficult to make good before bookcase is installed.

Section62

neilmcl said:

Section62 said:

The instruction manual describes a manual recalibration process (removing the battery whilst switched on etc), but also refers to a sequence of LED flashes which indicate "...the measuring device must be sent in for service."

Not in my instruction manual it doesn't:

On page 26 of the 2016 edition, or page 24 of the 2021 one (a bit further down from where you've cropped the image in your post).

neilmcl said:

The only mention late of sending the unit back to Bosch is when it shows a series of lights denoting a fault.

That's the one, as per my comment quoted above.

The specific fault denoted by the sequence of LED flashes is reported to be a failure of the automatic calibration process, and the 'fix' being a return to Bosch/Authorised Agent for a (hardware?) recalibration.

fenwick458

I've yet to find an accurate cable or pipe detector that will provide repeatable results. they are so flaky and inaccurate it's often easier to just make a small hole in the wall before you drill

travis-powers

It’s all very well but the only time I get a detector out is when I’m fitting a kitchen and the client says I did the electrics myself apart from that I expect everything to be in safe zones.
Having said that I cut a 100mm hole in my landing and found the gas supply to my boiler just under the floor.
what I’m saying is if you don’t expect something to be there your average joe won’t check.

badger09

Another_Level said:

Tbh, the question has been answered in the second post    My input (its a hidden redundant live gas pipe of soft vulnerable material) 


Please have that gas pipe run disconnected at where it was Teed into the household gas run. Hey you know it makes sense. 

Natural gas will burn your !!!!!! 

Yes I know that. The problem is that the GasSafe guy who came twice - once to cap off in fireplace then again to cap off in wall after leak - couldn't find where the supply fed into that room. That's despite him crawling around the loft & trying to trace from meter.

I guess we'll just have to get someone else in & see if they can trace it. Its the sort of problem we encountered in our previous home (of 20 years). When you move into a different home you have no idea how things have been done!travis-powers said:

It’s all very well but the only time I get a detector out is when I’m fitting a kitchen and the client says I did the electrics myself apart from that I expect everything to be in safe zones.
Having said that I cut a 100mm hole in my landing and found the gas supply to my boiler just under the floor.
what I’m saying is if you don’t expect something to be there your average joe won’t check.

Absolutely this.

badger09

neilmcl said:

I'd also point out that although the Bosch Truvo retails around £36 you can pick these up on ebay for much less. Mine cost me £20 a few months back and it was new.

Cheers. I'm watching a couple (in auctions) now.

neilmcl

Section62 said:

neilmcl said:

Section62 said:

The instruction manual describes a manual recalibration process (removing the battery whilst switched on etc), but also refers to a sequence of LED flashes which indicate "...the measuring device must be sent in for service."

Not in my instruction manual it doesn't:

On page 26 of the 2016 edition, or page 24 of the 2021 one (a bit further down from where you've cropped the image in your post).

neilmcl said:

The only mention late of sending the unit back to Bosch is when it shows a series of lights denoting a fault.

That's the one, as per my comment quoted above.

The specific fault denoted by the sequence of LED flashes is reported to be a failure of the automatic calibration process, and the 'fix' being a return to Bosch/Authorised Agent for a (hardware?) recalibration.

You mean this one:



That section simply refers to general errors etc, nothing specifically to do with the auto calibration process.

Section62

neilmcl said:

Section62 said:

neilmcl said:

Section62 said:

The instruction manual describes a manual recalibration process (removing the battery whilst switched on etc), but also refers to a sequence of LED flashes which indicate "...the measuring device must be sent in for service."

Not in my instruction manual it doesn't:

On page 26 of the 2016 edition, or page 24 of the 2021 one (a bit further down from where you've cropped the image in your post).

neilmcl said:

The only mention late of sending the unit back to Bosch is when it shows a series of lights denoting a fault.

That's the one, as per my comment quoted above.

The specific fault denoted by the sequence of LED flashes is reported to be a failure of the automatic calibration process, and the 'fix' being a return to Bosch/Authorised Agent for a (hardware?) recalibration.

You mean this one:

That section simply refers to general errors etc, nothing specifically to do with the auto calibration process.

The section doesn't refer to "general errors etc".

But I agree it doesn't say it is specifically to do with the calibration process either. I didn't say it did. That has been my point.

(Note my use of "reported to be" in that sentence. Not "Bosch says..." or the "Manual says...")


I have been consistently saying there is a lack of information available online about the specific meaning of the LED flashes and the reports of a need to send the tool away for recalibration.

But IMV the text in the manual saying that a specific sequence of flashes occurring with an otherwise functional device = the unit needs to be returned to Bosch (or an agent) for a service, acts as reasonable corroboration of the reports I referred to.

The device is clearly functioning to a sufficient degree to be able to identify a 'fault' condition and display a specific sequence of LED flashes.  I'd be interested to hear any theories of what kind of fault - other than a calibration/adjustment issue - might be indicated in that way, whilst still making sense for a unit (costing as little as £20 on ebay) to be returned to the manufacturer for servicing?

Versus the reports from people selling, owning and using the device saying the 'code' is an indicator the device needs factory recalibration.


However - if it remains unclear - the issue for me when it came to making a buying choice is the lack of information online and from Bosch about the meaning of this sequence of LED flashes, and the circumstances/frequency in which an owner could expect that to happen. Along with a guide to the cost of having the device serviced as per the manual.

If I buy equipment I prefer that the manufacturer gives me information about how it works and what the functions mean, rather than adopt the 'mushroom' approach. If the RRP of the Truvo was £20 and the manual said the corrective measure was "Dispose as WEEE", I'd probably have bought one.

travis-powers

fenwick458 said:

I've yet to find an accurate cable or pipe detector that will provide repeatable results. they are so flaky and inaccurate it's often easier to just make a small hole in the wall before you drill

I do this when fitting wall units.
Makita do a very accurate scanner however it over a £1000 pound as much as I love a new tool can’t justify buying it!