Why are people scrambling for petrol?

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JustAnotherSaver said:

half_empty said:

Regarding petrol in inappropriate containers, if people don't know then they don't know, it is a gap in education. Certainly wouldn't advocate a "slap", recent events and all.

I think this highlights a problem - making excuses for idiocy.

That's like saying someone can be excused for putting their hand on the cooker as it's on because they were never told beforehand that they'd end up getting burned.

Putting juice in Jerry cans is perfectly fine. Plastic carrier bags though? Really? Come on. If the woman had been there with only carrier bags and no car then you could maybe at a reach try and pass off her idiocy (but really not!) but she was there with her car. She was simply trying to get as much fuel as she could. She'd obviously filled up her car first and was going for more because of the nonsense that is going on. Fill your car and stop.

These people are playing in to the hands of those with their master plan. If everyone just went about their business as normal instead of all this flapping then we wouldn't be in this situation.

Wasn't excusing it. All I will say on it.

Sea_Shell

I'm not sure it counts as "scrambling", but we're down to 1/4 tank and will be doing our normal weekly food shop this morning, so will go on a little fuel hunt on our way, as we will pass 2 and have to detour ever so slightly to get to a 3rd (which is actually the closest one).    2 of these 3 had no fuel yesterday!!

We want to book a few days away (UK) from next Monday, but we just can't do this until we have secured some fuel. 

Some may say that's selfish and non-essential when there are workers who also can't get any, but all we want is to be able to lead our normal lives again after everything we've already had to "put on hold" over the last 18 months!!! 

Reginald74

Sea_Shell said:

I'm not sure it counts as "scrambling", but we're down to 1/4 tank and will be doing our normal weekly food shop this morning, so will go on a little fuel hunt on our way, as we will pass 2 and have to detour ever so slightly to get to a 3rd (which is actually the closest one).    2 of these 3 had no fuel yesterday!!

We want to book a few days away (UK) from next Monday, but we just can't do this until we have secured some fuel. 

Some may say that's selfish and non-essential when there are workers who also can't get any, but all we want is to be able to lead our normal lives again after everything we've already had to "put on hold" over the last 18 months!!! 

The people calling people selfish and idiots have all filled their cars with fuel since this crisis started. Hopefully they showed a little more humility afterwards.

Thesaltmustflow

JustAnotherSaver said:

Thesaltmustflow said:

JustAnotherSaver said:

I can't stand people. So chuffing stupid.

If you're a 1/4 tank then you could be forgiven for needing some juice.

If you're at 3/4 tank then i don't care if you're about to set off on a 300 mile journey, you don't need to fuel up right now.

And you most certainly don't need to be emptying water bottles in a bin to then fill them up after having filled your car up. The woman that did that wants slapping in the face with those bottles.

Stations are getting absolutely hammered and only a few have sold out around here. That goes to show how much of a 'shortage' there's been - naff all.

Back in the first lockdown people stopped going places and fuel ended up dropping approx 10p per litre. Lot of money not getting spent.

What's all this madness done right now? Pushed the price up.

Claws back a bit of what wasn't spent.

But may be totally nothing to do with that and everything could be all so innocent.

Or not.

More like 30p a litre, I remember it being around 99.7p for unleaded and now it's around 1.40 up from 1.30 at the start of the 'non-event' fuel shortage.

You're talking to a guy who keeps tally of his fill ups so I can (for example) tell you that on 16th June 2007 diesel cost me 93.9p. Not only that but the car I was on had just hit 116,557 miles.

So I know what it was costing

Granted there are other places in the UK. This isn't like the weather where the media release some statement that applies to London only & blanket the entire UK with whatever is going on in London.

To give specifics, I fuelled up 15th March 2020 when fuel was £1.21.9 at Shell.

Lockdown/Furlough hit about the 24th IIRC. I'm not to a few days so I may be a little out on that but I can't be bothered to check. I wont be too far out.

I fuelled up on 9th April at £1.12.9 and again 2nd May at £1.09.9 so ok I was out with my 10p but I did say approx.

Most certainly wasn't 30p ..... not here. But then as I don't live anywhere else, I can only speak for here.

And I can only speak for here...........

Sea_Shell

The other thing that has occurred to me during this whole issue, is that you can't really help anyone else with this, directly.

Unless you are insured to drive their car, you can't really just get some for someone else, while you're out, like you could a pint of milk or a loaf of bread.  They have to be able to get it themselves.

You can't buy £20 worth and lend your neighbour £10 worth when you get home!

What if you really are out of fuel, and don't have a Petrol station within walking distance?, but then they've probably sold out of cans too!!!    You can't just order some on-line with Amazon, like you can with almost ever other product!

They also can't set up temporary local dispensaries, like they can for mains water if they have a problem.

Thesaltmustflow

Sea_Shell said:

The other thing that has occurred to me during this whole issue, is that you can't really help anyone else with this, directly.

Unless you are insured to drive their car, you can't really just get some for someone else, while you're out, like you could a pint of milk or a loaf of bread.  They have to be able to get it themselves.

You can't buy £20 worth and lend your neighbour £10 worth when you get home!

What if you really are out of fuel, and don't have a Petrol station within walking distance?, but then they've probably sold out of cans too!!!    You can't just order some on-line with Amazon, like you can with almost ever other product!

They also can't set up temporary local dispensaries, like they can for mains water if they have a problem.

What?

You could order a jerry can off Amazon and give it to your neighbour to fill up for you at the fuel station, I suppose it depends on how quickly you need fuel and how well you get on with your neighbour/s but I don't see anyone 'having' no other choice than to get fuel themselves

Sea_Shell

Thesaltmustflow said:

Sea_Shell said:

The other thing that has occurred to me during this whole issue, is that you can't really help anyone else with this, directly.

Unless you are insured to drive their car, you can't really just get some for someone else, while you're out, like you could a pint of milk or a loaf of bread.  They have to be able to get it themselves.

You can't buy £20 worth and lend your neighbour £10 worth when you get home!

What if you really are out of fuel, and don't have a Petrol station within walking distance?, but then they've probably sold out of cans too!!!    You can't just order some on-line with Amazon, like you can with almost ever other product!

They also can't set up temporary local dispensaries, like they can for mains water if they have a problem.

What?

You could order a jerry can off Amazon and give it to your neighbour to fill up for you at the fuel station, I suppose it depends on how quickly you need fuel and how well you get on with your neighbour/s but I don't see anyone 'having' no other choice than to get fuel themselves

Filling up a jerry can, plus your own car!!!! 

You'll be seen as the devil's spawn!!! 🤣   Unless you plan on wearing a t-shirt that says "I'm buying this for my friend!!"

Thesaltmustflow

Sea_Shell said:

Thesaltmustflow said:

Sea_Shell said:

The other thing that has occurred to me during this whole issue, is that you can't really help anyone else with this, directly.

Unless you are insured to drive their car, you can't really just get some for someone else, while you're out, like you could a pint of milk or a loaf of bread.  They have to be able to get it themselves.

You can't buy £20 worth and lend your neighbour £10 worth when you get home!

What if you really are out of fuel, and don't have a Petrol station within walking distance?, but then they've probably sold out of cans too!!!    You can't just order some on-line with Amazon, like you can with almost ever other product!

They also can't set up temporary local dispensaries, like they can for mains water if they have a problem.

What?

You could order a jerry can off Amazon and give it to your neighbour to fill up for you at the fuel station, I suppose it depends on how quickly you need fuel and how well you get on with your neighbour/s but I don't see anyone 'having' no other choice than to get fuel themselves

Filling up a jerry can, plus your own car!!!! 

You'll be seen as the devil's spawn!!! 🤣   Unless you plan on wearing a t-shirt that says "I'm buying this for my friend!!"

Of course, I'd overlooked that important part 

tr7phil

Thesaltmustflow said:

JustAnotherSaver said:

Thesaltmustflow said:

JustAnotherSaver said:

I can't stand people. So chuffing stupid.

If you're a 1/4 tank then you could be forgiven for needing some juice.

If you're at 3/4 tank then i don't care if you're about to set off on a 300 mile journey, you don't need to fuel up right now.

And you most certainly don't need to be emptying water bottles in a bin to then fill them up after having filled your car up. The woman that did that wants slapping in the face with those bottles.

Stations are getting absolutely hammered and only a few have sold out around here. That goes to show how much of a 'shortage' there's been - naff all.

Back in the first lockdown people stopped going places and fuel ended up dropping approx 10p per litre. Lot of money not getting spent.

What's all this madness done right now? Pushed the price up.

Claws back a bit of what wasn't spent.

But may be totally nothing to do with that and everything could be all so innocent.

Or not.

More like 30p a litre, I remember it being around 99.7p for unleaded and now it's around 1.40 up from 1.30 at the start of the 'non-event' fuel shortage.

You're talking to a guy who keeps tally of his fill ups so I can (for example) tell you that on 16th June 2007 diesel cost me 93.9p. Not only that but the car I was on had just hit 116,557 miles.

So I know what it was costing

Granted there are other places in the UK. This isn't like the weather where the media release some statement that applies to London only & blanket the entire UK with whatever is going on in London.

To give specifics, I fuelled up 15th March 2020 when fuel was £1.21.9 at Shell.

Lockdown/Furlough hit about the 24th IIRC. I'm not to a few days so I may be a little out on that but I can't be bothered to check. I wont be too far out.

I fuelled up on 9th April at £1.12.9 and again 2nd May at £1.09.9 so ok I was out with my 10p but I did say approx.

Most certainly wasn't 30p ..... not here. But then as I don't live anywhere else, I can only speak for here.

And I can only speak for here...........

In case anyone is interested, regular unleaded minimum and maximum prices per litre at Tesco, Chelmsford, Essex:-

2010  £1.099 to £1.189
2011  £1.239 to £1.389
2012  £1.259 to £1.399
2013  £1.269 to £1.399
2014  £1.149 to £1.289
2015  £1.099 to £1.139
2016  £1.079 to £1.099
2017  £1.099 to £1.159
2018  £1.129 to £1.339
2019  £1.109 to £1.239
2020  £1.079 to £1.239
2021  £1.269 to £1.339

Thesaltmustflow

tr7phil said:

Thesaltmustflow said:

JustAnotherSaver said:

Thesaltmustflow said:

JustAnotherSaver said:

I can't stand people. So chuffing stupid.

If you're a 1/4 tank then you could be forgiven for needing some juice.

If you're at 3/4 tank then i don't care if you're about to set off on a 300 mile journey, you don't need to fuel up right now.

And you most certainly don't need to be emptying water bottles in a bin to then fill them up after having filled your car up. The woman that did that wants slapping in the face with those bottles.

Stations are getting absolutely hammered and only a few have sold out around here. That goes to show how much of a 'shortage' there's been - naff all.

Back in the first lockdown people stopped going places and fuel ended up dropping approx 10p per litre. Lot of money not getting spent.

What's all this madness done right now? Pushed the price up.

Claws back a bit of what wasn't spent.

But may be totally nothing to do with that and everything could be all so innocent.

Or not.

More like 30p a litre, I remember it being around 99.7p for unleaded and now it's around 1.40 up from 1.30 at the start of the 'non-event' fuel shortage.

You're talking to a guy who keeps tally of his fill ups so I can (for example) tell you that on 16th June 2007 diesel cost me 93.9p. Not only that but the car I was on had just hit 116,557 miles.

So I know what it was costing

Granted there are other places in the UK. This isn't like the weather where the media release some statement that applies to London only & blanket the entire UK with whatever is going on in London.

To give specifics, I fuelled up 15th March 2020 when fuel was £1.21.9 at Shell.

Lockdown/Furlough hit about the 24th IIRC. I'm not to a few days so I may be a little out on that but I can't be bothered to check. I wont be too far out.

I fuelled up on 9th April at £1.12.9 and again 2nd May at £1.09.9 so ok I was out with my 10p but I did say approx.

Most certainly wasn't 30p ..... not here. But then as I don't live anywhere else, I can only speak for here.

And I can only speak for here...........

I case anyone is interested, regular unleaded minimum and maximum prices per litre at Tesco, Chelmsford, Essex:-

2010  £1.099 to £1.189
2011  £1.239 to £1.389
2012  £1.259 to £1.399
2013  £1.269 to £1.399
2014  £1.149 to £1.289
2015  £1.099 to £1.139
2016  £1.079 to £1.099
2017  £1.099 to £1.159
2018  £1.129 to £1.339
2019  £1.109 to £1.239
2020  £1.079 to £1.239
2021  £1.269 to £1.339

If memory serves (and I don't take a lot of notice tbf) Unleaded was around 99.7p a litre round about the start of the 'pandemic' so that would be (I think) Mar-Apr 20? in Stockport, Gtr Manchester, I do remember seeing it and commenting to OH about not seeing price under a £1 a litre for a long time. It was on one of the forecourt displays at an Asda that I pass regularly and use a few times too. 

Just goes to show how different prices can be around the country.