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  • Redx
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    silvial said:
    Therefore I don’t know if my defence will be good enough?

    you do your best , and let a judge decide, because what matters is the signage on the day of the contravention, the fact that they have since changed it for the better proves it wasnt good enough in the first place !!
  • Redx said:
    silvial said:
    Therefore I don’t know if my defence will be good enough?

    you do your best , and let a judge decide, because what matters is the signage on the day of the contravention, the fact that they have since changed it for the better proves it wasnt good enough in the first place !!

    Perfect. Thank you. 

  • Coupon-mad
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    Google images is fine as evidence snd photos come later, anyway.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • silvial
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    edited 25 September 2021 at 11:39PM
    This will be the final version. Please let me know if any changes are needed.
    Thank you to everyone for yours advice, support and help. 

    2.  It is admitted that the Defendant was the registered keeper of the vehicle in question and was the courier driver at the time when PCN was issued but liability is denied. 

    3. The signage of the car park was inadequate, not visible and poorly lit. Entering the car park inthe dark no terms were seen by the defendant. The alleged breach between the Defendant and Civil Enforcement Ltd with regards to payment not made with terms displayed on signage, the Defendant believed that the car park was free. Assuming that the car park was free, the Defendant parked to rest there between delivering goods to customers. As the signage was not visible and being poorly lit, the Defendant was not aware that payment was needed inaccordance with terms displayed on signage which was not seen at all and inadequate.

    4.  Entering the car park the signage was not clear, visible and legible. According to BPA’s code of Practice (18.2): Entrance signs must follow some minimum general principles and be in a standard format. The size of the sign must take into account the expected speed of vehicles approaching the car park, and it is recommended that you follow Department for Transport guidance on this.

    It continues: (18.3): Signs must be conspicuous and legible, and written in intelligible language, so that they are easy to see, read and understand.


  • Coupon-mad
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    Nearly there.  Where is the section I told you about enforcing in hours of darkness?
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  • Nearly there.  Where is the section I told you about enforcing in hours of darkness?
    Thanks for your comments. Couldn't find anything on the BPA Code of Practice with regards terms that apply during hours of darkness.

  • Coupon-mad
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    Even when you searched it (control &f on a laptop) for the word darkness?  I doubt they've removed that bit but...?

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  • Redx
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    silvial said:
    Nearly there.  Where is the section I told you about enforcing in hours of darkness?
    Thanks for your comments. Couldn't find anything on the BPA Code of Practice with regards terms that apply during hours of darkness.


    I did , in Appendix B
  • Just checking  -  does this relate to an incident dated November 2020?

    If so you should be using/quoting from BPA CoP V8 dated January 2020.
  • Just checking  -  does this relate to an incident dated November 2020?

    If so you should be using/quoting from BPA CoP V8 dated January 2020.
    Yes, that’s right - November 2020. Why?
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