Has anyone removed their landline on BT

poppasmurf_bewdley

neilmcl said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

Interesting comments above to my remarks.

When I say 'pulled the plug on my landline, I literally mean just that.  I have disconnected the phone physically so I does not work.  It cannot make or receive calls.  I did this because I have unlimited mobile calls, and most of the calls received on the landline were either sales calls, accident claims lines, or telling me my internet service was about to be disconnected. 

When I comment on BT not reducing the cost for removing the landline facility, BT have a module for each landline number in their telephone exchanges throughout the country. Mine is just down the road from me.  It costs BT to maintain these modules, and they save money if no landline is connected.

BT are still trying to palm off their phones on me with their regular emails.  It doesn't seem to have dawned on them I haven't made or received a single call on my landline in more than a year! I have a smile on my face when I imagine BT warehouses stuffed full of these phones they cannot seem to sell.

And am I alone in thinking BT have a bloody cheek trying to sell me phones that they claim will reduce all these spam calls when they themselves should be doing that, not expecting customers to have to pay for the privilege of doing it themselves?

That really isn't how it works. You removing your telephone from it's socket does nothing in terms of any cost savings for them.

I know.  But having them remove the landline telephone facility from my package would.  But BT will not reduce the price to me, so I will not do it.  I prefer to cost BT money by just disconnecting the phone facility, whilst achieving the same solution. Hoist by their own petard!

Tokmon

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

neilmcl said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

Interesting comments above to my remarks.

When I say 'pulled the plug on my landline, I literally mean just that.  I have disconnected the phone physically so I does not work.  It cannot make or receive calls.  I did this because I have unlimited mobile calls, and most of the calls received on the landline were either sales calls, accident claims lines, or telling me my internet service was about to be disconnected. 

When I comment on BT not reducing the cost for removing the landline facility, BT have a module for each landline number in their telephone exchanges throughout the country. Mine is just down the road from me.  It costs BT to maintain these modules, and they save money if no landline is connected.

BT are still trying to palm off their phones on me with their regular emails.  It doesn't seem to have dawned on them I haven't made or received a single call on my landline in more than a year! I have a smile on my face when I imagine BT warehouses stuffed full of these phones they cannot seem to sell.

And am I alone in thinking BT have a bloody cheek trying to sell me phones that they claim will reduce all these spam calls when they themselves should be doing that, not expecting customers to have to pay for the privilege of doing it themselves?

That really isn't how it works. You removing your telephone from it's socket does nothing in terms of any cost savings for them.

I know.  But having them remove the landline telephone facility from my package would.  But BT will not reduce the price to me, so I will not do it.  I prefer to cost BT money by just disconnecting the phone facility, whilst achieving the same solution. Hoist by their own petard!

How much money do you think it would save them exactly considering your still using the line for your broadband?. Any saving to them will be miniscule considering telephone exchanges are automated (There isn't someone in there manually connecting lines on the switchboard anymore!) and you still want to use the line.

poppasmurf_bewdley

Tokmon said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

neilmcl said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

Interesting comments above to my remarks.

When I say 'pulled the plug on my landline, I literally mean just that.  I have disconnected the phone physically so I does not work.  It cannot make or receive calls.  I did this because I have unlimited mobile calls, and most of the calls received on the landline were either sales calls, accident claims lines, or telling me my internet service was about to be disconnected. 

When I comment on BT not reducing the cost for removing the landline facility, BT have a module for each landline number in their telephone exchanges throughout the country. Mine is just down the road from me.  It costs BT to maintain these modules, and they save money if no landline is connected.

BT are still trying to palm off their phones on me with their regular emails.  It doesn't seem to have dawned on them I haven't made or received a single call on my landline in more than a year! I have a smile on my face when I imagine BT warehouses stuffed full of these phones they cannot seem to sell.

And am I alone in thinking BT have a bloody cheek trying to sell me phones that they claim will reduce all these spam calls when they themselves should be doing that, not expecting customers to have to pay for the privilege of doing it themselves?

That really isn't how it works. You removing your telephone from it's socket does nothing in terms of any cost savings for them.

I know.  But having them remove the landline telephone facility from my package would.  But BT will not reduce the price to me, so I will not do it.  I prefer to cost BT money by just disconnecting the phone facility, whilst achieving the same solution. Hoist by their own petard!

How much money do you think it would save them exactly considering your still using the line for your broadband?. Any saving to them will be miniscule considering telephone exchanges are automated (There isn't someone in there manually connecting lines on the switchboard anymore!) and you still want to use the line.

Many millions of 'minisules' will make up one heck of a lot of money for BT.  And they want to keep all that money to themselves, not share it with their customers. 

Tokmon

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

Tokmon said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

neilmcl said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

Interesting comments above to my remarks.

When I say 'pulled the plug on my landline, I literally mean just that.  I have disconnected the phone physically so I does not work.  It cannot make or receive calls.  I did this because I have unlimited mobile calls, and most of the calls received on the landline were either sales calls, accident claims lines, or telling me my internet service was about to be disconnected. 

When I comment on BT not reducing the cost for removing the landline facility, BT have a module for each landline number in their telephone exchanges throughout the country. Mine is just down the road from me.  It costs BT to maintain these modules, and they save money if no landline is connected.

BT are still trying to palm off their phones on me with their regular emails.  It doesn't seem to have dawned on them I haven't made or received a single call on my landline in more than a year! I have a smile on my face when I imagine BT warehouses stuffed full of these phones they cannot seem to sell.

And am I alone in thinking BT have a bloody cheek trying to sell me phones that they claim will reduce all these spam calls when they themselves should be doing that, not expecting customers to have to pay for the privilege of doing it themselves?

That really isn't how it works. You removing your telephone from it's socket does nothing in terms of any cost savings for them.

I know.  But having them remove the landline telephone facility from my package would.  But BT will not reduce the price to me, so I will not do it.  I prefer to cost BT money by just disconnecting the phone facility, whilst achieving the same solution. Hoist by their own petard!

How much money do you think it would save them exactly considering your still using the line for your broadband?. Any saving to them will be miniscule considering telephone exchanges are automated (There isn't someone in there manually connecting lines on the switchboard anymore!) and you still want to use the line.

Many millions of 'minisules' will make up one heck of a lot of money for BT.  And they want to keep all that money to themselves, not share it with their customers. 

If by "minisules" you mean the equipment that is used for calls well that is already there and has already been purchased so they won't get any money back if they stop supplying phone services to someone. The system will also be maintained and checked as a whole so your phone service won't cost them any extra to maintain considering your using the line anyway.

It's like saying you won't use one plug socket in your house to save money but how would that save any money? The plug socket is already there, the circuit it is on will have other sockets so any maintenance required will be needed anyway so no extra cost. In reality it could save money because you wouldn't know if it breaks so don't have to pay to fix it.

So actually your potentially saving Openreach money because any telephone issues with the line such as noise that might develop you won't know about and won't report so saves them having to fix it.

poppasmurf_bewdley

Tokmon said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

Tokmon said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

neilmcl said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

Interesting comments above to my remarks.

When I say 'pulled the plug on my landline, I literally mean just that.  I have disconnected the phone physically so I does not work.  It cannot make or receive calls.  I did this because I have unlimited mobile calls, and most of the calls received on the landline were either sales calls, accident claims lines, or telling me my internet service was about to be disconnected. 

When I comment on BT not reducing the cost for removing the landline facility, BT have a module for each landline number in their telephone exchanges throughout the country. Mine is just down the road from me.  It costs BT to maintain these modules, and they save money if no landline is connected.

BT are still trying to palm off their phones on me with their regular emails.  It doesn't seem to have dawned on them I haven't made or received a single call on my landline in more than a year! I have a smile on my face when I imagine BT warehouses stuffed full of these phones they cannot seem to sell.

And am I alone in thinking BT have a bloody cheek trying to sell me phones that they claim will reduce all these spam calls when they themselves should be doing that, not expecting customers to have to pay for the privilege of doing it themselves?

That really isn't how it works. You removing your telephone from it's socket does nothing in terms of any cost savings for them.

I know.  But having them remove the landline telephone facility from my package would.  But BT will not reduce the price to me, so I will not do it.  I prefer to cost BT money by just disconnecting the phone facility, whilst achieving the same solution. Hoist by their own petard!

How much money do you think it would save them exactly considering your still using the line for your broadband?. Any saving to them will be miniscule considering telephone exchanges are automated (There isn't someone in there manually connecting lines on the switchboard anymore!) and you still want to use the line.

Many millions of 'minisules' will make up one heck of a lot of money for BT.  And they want to keep all that money to themselves, not share it with their customers. 

If by "minisules" you mean the equipment that is used for calls well that is already there and has already been purchased so they won't get any money back if they stop supplying phone services to someone. The system will also be maintained and checked as a whole so your phone service won't cost them any extra to maintain considering your using the line anyway.

It's like saying you won't use one plug socket in your house to save money but how would that save any money? The plug socket is already there, the circuit it is on will have other sockets so any maintenance required will be needed anyway so no extra cost. In reality it could save money because you wouldn't know if it breaks so don't have to pay to fix it.

So actually your potentially saving Openreach money because any telephone issues with the line such as noise that might develop you won't know about and won't report so saves them having to fix it.

If you say so.  

Tokmon

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

Tokmon said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

Tokmon said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

neilmcl said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

Interesting comments above to my remarks.

When I say 'pulled the plug on my landline, I literally mean just that.  I have disconnected the phone physically so I does not work.  It cannot make or receive calls.  I did this because I have unlimited mobile calls, and most of the calls received on the landline were either sales calls, accident claims lines, or telling me my internet service was about to be disconnected. 

When I comment on BT not reducing the cost for removing the landline facility, BT have a module for each landline number in their telephone exchanges throughout the country. Mine is just down the road from me.  It costs BT to maintain these modules, and they save money if no landline is connected.

BT are still trying to palm off their phones on me with their regular emails.  It doesn't seem to have dawned on them I haven't made or received a single call on my landline in more than a year! I have a smile on my face when I imagine BT warehouses stuffed full of these phones they cannot seem to sell.

And am I alone in thinking BT have a bloody cheek trying to sell me phones that they claim will reduce all these spam calls when they themselves should be doing that, not expecting customers to have to pay for the privilege of doing it themselves?

That really isn't how it works. You removing your telephone from it's socket does nothing in terms of any cost savings for them.

I know.  But having them remove the landline telephone facility from my package would.  But BT will not reduce the price to me, so I will not do it.  I prefer to cost BT money by just disconnecting the phone facility, whilst achieving the same solution. Hoist by their own petard!

How much money do you think it would save them exactly considering your still using the line for your broadband?. Any saving to them will be miniscule considering telephone exchanges are automated (There isn't someone in there manually connecting lines on the switchboard anymore!) and you still want to use the line.

Many millions of 'minisules' will make up one heck of a lot of money for BT.  And they want to keep all that money to themselves, not share it with their customers. 

If by "minisules" you mean the equipment that is used for calls well that is already there and has already been purchased so they won't get any money back if they stop supplying phone services to someone. The system will also be maintained and checked as a whole so your phone service won't cost them any extra to maintain considering your using the line anyway.

It's like saying you won't use one plug socket in your house to save money but how would that save any money? The plug socket is already there, the circuit it is on will have other sockets so any maintenance required will be needed anyway so no extra cost. In reality it could save money because you wouldn't know if it breaks so don't have to pay to fix it.

So actually your potentially saving Openreach money because any telephone issues with the line such as noise that might develop you won't know about and won't report so saves them having to fix it.

If you say so.  

Ok well i will just assume you agree with my logic as you are unable to come up with any further counter arguments...

poppasmurf_bewdley

Tokmon said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

Tokmon said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

Tokmon said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

neilmcl said:

poppasmurf_bewdley said:

Interesting comments above to my remarks.

When I say 'pulled the plug on my landline, I literally mean just that.  I have disconnected the phone physically so I does not work.  It cannot make or receive calls.  I did this because I have unlimited mobile calls, and most of the calls received on the landline were either sales calls, accident claims lines, or telling me my internet service was about to be disconnected. 

When I comment on BT not reducing the cost for removing the landline facility, BT have a module for each landline number in their telephone exchanges throughout the country. Mine is just down the road from me.  It costs BT to maintain these modules, and they save money if no landline is connected.

BT are still trying to palm off their phones on me with their regular emails.  It doesn't seem to have dawned on them I haven't made or received a single call on my landline in more than a year! I have a smile on my face when I imagine BT warehouses stuffed full of these phones they cannot seem to sell.

And am I alone in thinking BT have a bloody cheek trying to sell me phones that they claim will reduce all these spam calls when they themselves should be doing that, not expecting customers to have to pay for the privilege of doing it themselves?

That really isn't how it works. You removing your telephone from it's socket does nothing in terms of any cost savings for them.

I know.  But having them remove the landline telephone facility from my package would.  But BT will not reduce the price to me, so I will not do it.  I prefer to cost BT money by just disconnecting the phone facility, whilst achieving the same solution. Hoist by their own petard!

How much money do you think it would save them exactly considering your still using the line for your broadband?. Any saving to them will be miniscule considering telephone exchanges are automated (There isn't someone in there manually connecting lines on the switchboard anymore!) and you still want to use the line.

Many millions of 'minisules' will make up one heck of a lot of money for BT.  And they want to keep all that money to themselves, not share it with their customers. 

If by "minisules" you mean the equipment that is used for calls well that is already there and has already been purchased so they won't get any money back if they stop supplying phone services to someone. The system will also be maintained and checked as a whole so your phone service won't cost them any extra to maintain considering your using the line anyway.

It's like saying you won't use one plug socket in your house to save money but how would that save any money? The plug socket is already there, the circuit it is on will have other sockets so any maintenance required will be needed anyway so no extra cost. In reality it could save money because you wouldn't know if it breaks so don't have to pay to fix it.

So actually your potentially saving Openreach money because any telephone issues with the line such as noise that might develop you won't know about and won't report so saves them having to fix it.

If you say so.  

Ok well i will just assume you agree with my logic as you are unable to come up with any further counter arguments...

Assume what you like, but no.  

JJ_Egan

Like me  landline but rarely if ever used , so how does it cost BT money as the infrastructure is in place for 50 plus years .

jbuchanangb

I know someone whose BT line was provided by a telegraph pole on their land. They disconnected the line and demolished the pole. Still pay the line rental to BT to retain the ownership of the landline number for such time as they reconnect it. One multicore cable now sticks out of the ground where the pole used to be. Now that's what I call pulling the plug. They receive a 100Mb broadband service from EE by 4G.

zagfles

southsidergs said:

apb123 said:

Is it much cheaper?

The line rental also covers the rental of the line to deliver the broadband so you'll be in for a shock if you think taking the ability to make calls away will save loads of money, I believe there's actually an extra charge now (£5 if you look at the website) to leave the line open to make/receive calls but the standard pricing isn't reduced any

And as it says here https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/broadband-and-tv/cheap-broadband/

"It's generally more expensive to get broadband with no line. Almost all of the cheapest broadband deals tend to include a landline (with pay-as-you-go calls). Virgin Media and BT now do packages that don’t come with a landline, but they’ll usually be more expensive or cost the same as the equivalent landline deal."

I stopped using my landline for calls a year ago and use a VOIP service - much cheaper and more flexible.