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  • Butts
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    edited 19 September 2021 at 2:05AM
    frugal90 said:
    What really confused me is that I have a UK passport. However, if I fly back to Heathrow, then on to a Scottish airport I will have different arrangements. How can that be?
    If you Fly back into Heathrow that is where you enter the UK and pass through immigration and customs. You are quite within your rights to follow the English regimen with regard to testing as that is your point of entry.

    The connecting flight is a domestic service not subject to any of the above,

    Only flights flying directly into Scotland from abroad  are subject  to Nicolas regime and different testing protocols..
  • Dr_Crypto
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    I still don’t understand your logic. The government will send you a box of them for free as things stand. They were handing them out to attendees at festivals. Certain local authorities in the U.K. were advising tourists to take ones before arriving. What’s the difference between a festival in Leeds or a weekend in Cornwall and a weekend in Spain? 
  • frugal90 said:
    What really confused me is that I have a UK passport. However, if I fly back to Heathrow, then on to a Scottish airport I will have different arrangements. How can that be?
    Simply because Public Health is a devolved matter so the government in Edinburgh can have different rules than London. Same as regional governments in other countries have different rules on entry requirements,  restriction on businesses and mask wearing. Tenerife has different rules to mainland Spain.

    But I have a UK passport not a Scottish passport, how can it be enforced. Many people will just drive to an English airport.
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  • sheramber
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    It is nothing to do with what passport you have. It is where you arrive in the country.

    It applies to all travellers regardless of where they come from  ( apart from red list countries) or what passport they have , not just UK, English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish.
  • frugal90 said:
    frugal90 said:
    What really confused me is that I have a UK passport. However, if I fly back to Heathrow, then on to a Scottish airport I will have different arrangements. How can that be?
    Simply because Public Health is a devolved matter so the government in Edinburgh can have different rules than London. Same as regional governments in other countries have different rules on entry requirements,  restriction on businesses and mask wearing. Tenerife has different rules to mainland Spain.

    But I have a UK passport not a Scottish passport, how can it be enforced. Many people will just drive to an English airport.
    Enforceability doesn't matter, many laws are practically unenforceable.  That doesn't mean you can just ignore them (at least not without potential consequences.)
  • sheramber
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    frugal90 said:
    frugal90 said:
    What really confused me is that I have a UK passport. However, if I fly back to Heathrow, then on to a Scottish airport I will have different arrangements. How can that be?
    Simply because Public Health is a devolved matter so the government in Edinburgh can have different rules than London. Same as regional governments in other countries have different rules on entry requirements,  restriction on businesses and mask wearing. Tenerife has different rules to mainland Spain.

    But I have a UK passport not a Scottish passport, how can it be enforced. Many people will just drive to an English airport.
    and then they will follow the rules for the UK.

    Where you live or travel to doesn't matter. Where you arrive in the country and from where is what matters.

    An English, Welsh or Northern Irish  person flying into a Scottish airport from abroad will have to follow the rules for arriving in Scotland.  The same as  a French or German person arriving direct  at a Scottish airport will have to follow the Scottish rules.
  • silvercar
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    sheramber said:
    frugal90 said:
    frugal90 said:
    What really confused me is that I have a UK passport. However, if I fly back to Heathrow, then on to a Scottish airport I will have different arrangements. How can that be?
    Simply because Public Health is a devolved matter so the government in Edinburgh can have different rules than London. Same as regional governments in other countries have different rules on entry requirements,  restriction on businesses and mask wearing. Tenerife has different rules to mainland Spain.

    But I have a UK passport not a Scottish passport, how can it be enforced. Many people will just drive to an English airport.
    and then they will follow the rules for the UK.

    Where you live or travel to doesn't matter. Where you arrive in the country and from where is what matters.

    An English, Welsh or Northern Irish  person flying into a Scottish airport from abroad will have to follow the rules for arriving in Scotland.  The same as  a French or German person arriving direct  at a Scottish airport will have to follow the Scottish rules.
    It’s a bit of a hybrid. England allows test to release on day 5, Scotland doesn’t. This means that you can’t remain in England until day 5 and then be free to go to Scotland as Scotland requires 10 day isolation. If you could choose to only follow the English rule, you could arrive at Newcastle airport, go isolate at home in Scotland, return to England for a day 5 TTR and then go back to Scotland and stop isolating when your result came through.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • Dr_Crypto
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    silvercar said:
    sheramber said:
    frugal90 said:
    frugal90 said:
    What really confused me is that I have a UK passport. However, if I fly back to Heathrow, then on to a Scottish airport I will have different arrangements. How can that be?
    Simply because Public Health is a devolved matter so the government in Edinburgh can have different rules than London. Same as regional governments in other countries have different rules on entry requirements,  restriction on businesses and mask wearing. Tenerife has different rules to mainland Spain.

    But I have a UK passport not a Scottish passport, how can it be enforced. Many people will just drive to an English airport.
    and then they will follow the rules for the UK.

    Where you live or travel to doesn't matter. Where you arrive in the country and from where is what matters.

    An English, Welsh or Northern Irish  person flying into a Scottish airport from abroad will have to follow the rules for arriving in Scotland.  The same as  a French or German person arriving direct  at a Scottish airport will have to follow the Scottish rules.
    It’s a bit of a hybrid. England allows test to release on day 5, Scotland doesn’t. This means that you can’t remain in England until day 5 and then be free to go to Scotland as Scotland requires 10 day isolation. If you could choose to only follow the English rule, you could arrive at Newcastle airport, go isolate at home in Scotland, return to England for a day 5 TTR and then go back to Scotland and stop isolating when your result came through.
    Why do you need to return to England for the day 5 TTR? You could just use a postal test from Scotland! 
  • silvercar
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    Dr_Crypto said:
    silvercar said:
    sheramber said:
    frugal90 said:
    frugal90 said:
    What really confused me is that I have a UK passport. However, if I fly back to Heathrow, then on to a Scottish airport I will have different arrangements. How can that be?
    Simply because Public Health is a devolved matter so the government in Edinburgh can have different rules than London. Same as regional governments in other countries have different rules on entry requirements,  restriction on businesses and mask wearing. Tenerife has different rules to mainland Spain.

    But I have a UK passport not a Scottish passport, how can it be enforced. Many people will just drive to an English airport.
    and then they will follow the rules for the UK.

    Where you live or travel to doesn't matter. Where you arrive in the country and from where is what matters.

    An English, Welsh or Northern Irish  person flying into a Scottish airport from abroad will have to follow the rules for arriving in Scotland.  The same as  a French or German person arriving direct  at a Scottish airport will have to follow the Scottish rules.
    It’s a bit of a hybrid. England allows test to release on day 5, Scotland doesn’t. This means that you can’t remain in England until day 5 and then be free to go to Scotland as Scotland requires 10 day isolation. If you could choose to only follow the English rule, you could arrive at Newcastle airport, go isolate at home in Scotland, return to England for a day 5 TTR and then go back to Scotland and stop isolating when your result came through.
    Why do you need to return to England for the day 5 TTR? You could just use a postal test from Scotland! 
    To comply with the rules, TTR is only valid in England,  so being in England at least means you can take that test legally.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • Doshwaster
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    frugal90 said:
    frugal90 said:
    What really confused me is that I have a UK passport. However, if I fly back to Heathrow, then on to a Scottish airport I will have different arrangements. How can that be?
    Simply because Public Health is a devolved matter so the government in Edinburgh can have different rules than London. Same as regional governments in other countries have different rules on entry requirements,  restriction on businesses and mask wearing. Tenerife has different rules to mainland Spain.

    But I have a UK passport not a Scottish passport, how can it be enforced. Many people will just drive to an English airport.
    Would it be worth driving to an English airport just to avoid to cost of a pre-departure test on return?

    You may not like it but under devolution Scotland is entitled to impose whatever arrival health requirements at airports it wants regardless of the nationality or residence of the traveller. In principle they could also have checks at the border crossing but this is probably impractical.
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