No negotiation?

AdrianC

little_green said:

She said legally they cant lower the tag price as they are regulated or something?

Cobblers.

Of course there's nothing in the law stopping them.

Whether they will or not is a separate question.

Alanp

Wait…they didn’t try to sell you tyre insurance…
that was one they tried on me when I bought my last car never heard of that one before, I think I did very well to keep a straight face when the salesman mentioned it

Skintsaver

I brought a used car yesterday from a dealer in haggled and got them to moved. Whilst I was test driving they worked on a deal for me.

I already told them the car was out of my budget and ideally I was hoping to spend no more than 8500 to 8750 which would include the trade in of my 12 yo scratched megane. The car I was buying was on their forecourt for 10k it was a managers special with £500 off so should have been £10500.

When I came back from the test drive. They said they would knock a further 200 off the car price so 9800 and 600 for my car(this is more than I was expecting) I asked for a better price. But they wouldn't move. Then I asked if they would recondition the wheels there was a few scratches on the alloys they said after a while they could do this for me. The rear breaks on the car are also being replaced. But I left it they said they would keep the deal open till Saturday, but after this day the car would be selling for £10800(this could of been a trick to convince I was getting a better deal?) 

Went back yesterday and haggled more for my car they gave me £105 extra for it

So the deal is

10k car (poss £10500/£10800)
-less £200
Refurbished alloys
New Rear breaks
1 year warenty
Potentially new rear tyres
Front already replaced

In exchange of a poor condition 12yo megane

600 + 105

So you can get less than the advertised price. No other dealer offered me. More than 400 for mine. 

So im paying 9095. 

If I sell the car on webuyanycar they will pay 9895 for it. I think 8 got a good deal 

motorguy

Seems a bit cheeky but thats the way a lot of dealers are having to operate these days, given margins on used cars are tiny.

I'd be saying no the admin fee.  Thats frankly nonsense.  Fuel.  Assuming they're actually putting £23 in, i'd let them and the same with the road tax.  I would want confirmation that neither of those included an "admin fee".

The optional extras.  A firm no to them all frankly.  GAP insurance - i'd go for that but you can get it much cheaper online.  

Whys GAP insurance listed twice?  Is that just a 3 year v 5 year cost?

Aftermarket warranties arent worth the paper they are written on.  

Nearlyold

For the "Admin Fee" to be Non Optional it would have to be included in the Windscreen/Listing Price. If it's not included it has to be optional.
 
See CD Bramall Dealerships Ltd - ASA | CAP

Grumpy_chap

Skintsaver said:

I brought a used car yesterday from a dealer in haggled and got them to moved. Whilst I was test driving they worked on a deal for me.

I already told them the car was out of my budget and ideally I was hoping to spend no more than 8500 to 8750 which would include the trade in of my 12 yo scratched megane. The car I was buying was on their forecourt for 10k it was a managers special with £500 off so should have been £10500.

When I came back from the test drive. They said they would knock a further 200 off the car price so 9800 and 600 for my car(this is more than I was expecting) I asked for a better price. But they wouldn't move. Then I asked if they would recondition the wheels there was a few scratches on the alloys they said after a while they could do this for me. The rear breaks on the car are also being replaced. But I left it they said they would keep the deal open till Saturday, but after this day the car would be selling for £10800(this could of been a trick to convince I was getting a better deal?) 

Went back yesterday and haggled more for my car they gave me £105 extra for it

So the deal is

10k car (poss £10500/£10800)
-less £200
Refurbished alloys
New Rear breaks
1 year warenty
Potentially new rear tyres
Front already replaced

In exchange of a poor condition 12yo megane

600 + 105

So you can get less than the advertised price. No other dealer offered me. More than 400 for mine. 

So im paying 9095. 

If I sell the car on webuyanycar they will pay 9895 for it. I think 8 got a good deal 

Is that the Peugeot you were looking at last week?

They do now have it listed at £10,795.

Glad you got a good deal

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6293860/haggling-and-am-i-better-off-waiting#latest

NSG666

Interesting article on admin fees here:
Used car admin fees: should I pay them? | What Car?
I guess the no haggle approach is a result not only of the current market conditions but in response to the change in the buying process. Many customers are uncomfortable with haggling and there's a rise in the popularity of the likes of Cinch and Cazoo where I don't see an option to haggle. Daywho (I know it's spelt wrong) tried this approach many years ago but the market was not ready and it did not catch on - oh and their cars were crop.

When setting the used car price the dealer needs to be sensitive to the local market esp online as if their cars are £1000 more expensive to allow for haggling they won't see any customers in the first place. 

If you are fortunate you might drop on a car that's been stuck on the used car pitch for 3 months that they are fed up of looking at and desperate to sell. Sometimes a better deal towards month end can be had just before the car will take another book drop (reduction in value).

Question what the admin is for and you can try asking for a deal but if you knock off all the juicy profit making bits they only have the car itself to make money on you might not get very far. And yes the bit about illegal to reduce price sounds cobblers.

robatwork

One technique I used last year that worked well was to go to Carwow, and drivethedeal, and get the best offers on there. Print out, take to local dealer, and they matched the best price I found. This price was well under what that dealer was offering.

Grumpy_chap

robatwork said:

One technique I used last year that worked well was to go to Carwow, and drivethedeal, and get the best offers on there. Print out, take to local dealer, and they matched the best price I found. This price was well under what that dealer was offering.

That is a good strategy for buying a brand new car.

Herzlos

Car buying is different now that it's all online. Pick the car you want, sort by cheapest and go look at it.

So there's really no scope to overprice a car by £2000 to haggle £1500 off it because no-one will even come and look at it.

You *might* get a bit of a discount if there's a deadline coming up or it's been there for a while, but most of the time they'll just throw in some extra (like the upholstry protection that they charge £300 for but costs them £3).