Moving toilet in bathroom

ashe

Doozergirl said:

You really need to know about the joists. 

I can help a bit more when I know too.  The bath is probably going to take some thinking about.  

Is it correct that joists will run the opposing way to the floorboards? If so, the floorboards run left to right along the same plane as the window, so the joists would run towards/away from the window, which doesn't seem ideal & probably why the boxing runs around the room for the pipework now

danrv

ashe said:

Doozergirl said:

You really need to know about the joists. 

I can help a bit more when I know too.  The bath is probably going to take some thinking about.  

so the joists would run towards/away from the window

Yes, same as my bathroom that I'm completely renovating.
I took up all the chipboard floor, had waste pipes re routed through joists that were heavily notched. 
These were reinforced with 3x2.

Once I took the old chipboard flooring up, I considered doing the solvent weld 
piping and new sub floor myself.
In the end I got a local bathroom company to do that part.

They also renewed the copper piping as I'm having the bath the other way round so taps are at shower end.

In your case, the loo waste pipe and soil stack location is the main consideration when repositioning.

Niv

I don't think anyone has mentioned this as an option but what about changing the opening to the 'wardrobe' to instead open into the bedroom and block up the doorway in the bathroom. That way you win back a wall to play with (possibly move the bath perhaps) but also keep the storage space as it will be accessible from the other room.

NSG666

Some people ignore the notching rules and just chop the joists regardless. The rules allow you to drill holes through the centreline of the joist up to 25% of the joist height so on a 200mm joist you can drill 50mm holes which the waste pipe will fit through although it's difficult to get the pipe through (esp solvent weld). It might be possible to run the bath waste like this to the void with the soil pipe but Murphy's Law says there will be a joist running right where you need the bath trap to fit into the floor.

You could consider putting in a raised plinth for the bath allowing the waste pipe to be above the existing floor level but you'd need to measure it out to see whether feasible as you need to be able to stand on it to get in and out of the bath unless you are both 8 feet tall. Put some leds in it for a bit of twiddly bits - example below without leds

Window wall - in your photo the soil pipe looks to be boxed in. If you took that boxing right across to the end of the window or indeed full width of bathroom then you could swap the w/c and basin around either having a boxed in front access cistern (with BTW pan like you have) or you could use a frame and have a wall hung w/c and cistern. You could also have a wall hung basin whether that is just a basin and semi-pedestal or a wall hung basin unit. Example below.

Doozergirl

Niv said:

I don't think anyone has mentioned this as an option but what about changing the opening to the 'wardrobe' to instead open into the bedroom and block up the doorway in the bathroom. That way you win back a wall to play with (possibly move the bath perhaps) but also keep the storage space as it will be accessible from the other room.

I did think of it, but when I asked what was there, the OP said that there is a bulkhead there for the stairs.  Would have been ideal, but not to be.  

ashe

Doozergirl said:

Niv said:

I don't think anyone has mentioned this as an option but what about changing the opening to the 'wardrobe' to instead open into the bedroom and block up the doorway in the bathroom. That way you win back a wall to play with (possibly move the bath perhaps) but also keep the storage space as it will be accessible from the other room.

I did think of it, but when I asked what was there, the OP said that there is a bulkhead there for the stairs.  Would have been ideal, but not to be.  

Yes that wouldn’t work, this shows it from the other side and the slope is above floor height and probably not intended to hold people

ashe

NSG666 said:

Some people ignore the notching rules and just chop the joists regardless. The rules allow you to drill holes through the centreline of the joist up to 25% of the joist height so on a 200mm joist you can drill 50mm holes which the waste pipe will fit through although it's difficult to get the pipe through (esp solvent weld). It might be possible to run the bath waste like this to the void with the soil pipe but Murphy's Law says there will be a joist running right where you need the bath trap to fit into the floor.

You could consider putting in a raised plinth for the bath allowing the waste pipe to be above the existing floor level but you'd need to measure it out to see whether feasible as you need to be able to stand on it to get in and out of the bath unless you are both 8 feet tall. Put some leds in it for a bit of twiddly bits - example below without leds

Window wall - in your photo the soil pipe looks to be boxed in. If you took that boxing right across to the end of the window or indeed full width of bathroom then you could swap the w/c and basin around either having a boxed in front access cistern (with BTW pan like you have) or you could use a frame and have a wall hung w/c and cistern. You could also have a wall hung basin whether that is just a basin and semi-pedestal or a wall hung basin unit. Example below.

I think boxing to the toilet would work but not full length, purely because the bath width would be pushing right up against where the towel radiator is situated although I guess that could be moved too 

Niv

ashe said:

Doozergirl said:

Niv said:

I don't think anyone has mentioned this as an option but what about changing the opening to the 'wardrobe' to instead open into the bedroom and block up the doorway in the bathroom. That way you win back a wall to play with (possibly move the bath perhaps) but also keep the storage space as it will be accessible from the other room.

I did think of it, but when I asked what was there, the OP said that there is a bulkhead there for the stairs.  Would have been ideal, but not to be.  

Yes that wouldn’t work, this shows it from the other side and the slope is above floor height and probably not intended to hold people

I meant change the door of the cupboard to open into what looks like your study.

ashe

Niv said:

ashe said:

Doozergirl said:

Niv said:

I don't think anyone has mentioned this as an option but what about changing the opening to the 'wardrobe' to instead open into the bedroom and block up the doorway in the bathroom. That way you win back a wall to play with (possibly move the bath perhaps) but also keep the storage space as it will be accessible from the other room.

I did think of it, but when I asked what was there, the OP said that there is a bulkhead there for the stairs.  Would have been ideal, but not to be.  

Yes that wouldn’t work, this shows it from the other side and the slope is above floor height and probably not intended to hold people

I meant change the door of the cupboard to open into what looks like your study.

Could be done I suppose but then we have a weird cupboard door in the study (which has only freshly been decorated). 

The boiler pipes would need rerouting as they go straight down middle of where the opening would be. Just measured quickly and from doorframe to the wall that way on is only1619mm so bath would overshoot the doorframe quite a lot 

could get a smaller bath but am already sacrifice on having a shower in the room as gf has heart set on freestanding bath, so don’t want to lose shower and have a tiny bath 

NSG666

Other suggestions in the mix:
Cupboard door into the landing?
Put the bath on an angle?
Move the towel rad to the opposite end of the bath or the wall opposite the bath?