Premier Park LTD and now onto ZZPS

john-306

Well over 2 years since PP last made contact......

We had a letter off PremierPark dated 9th July 2019, stating as you have failed to pay so this has now been sent to our legal team bwlegal.
Same dated letter off bwlegal, pay up within 14 days or we will start legal proceedings.
Letter dated 25th July 2019 from bwlegal saying we have been instructed to commence legal action against you.
enclosed are information sheet about avoiding court action a reply form and an income and expenditure form.
Additionally the debt of £160 if not payed would increase to....

Debt + initial legal costs.. £160
Estimated interest.............£11.77
Estimated court fees.........£25
Estimated solicitors costs..£50

Estimated total.............. £246.77

Today from ZZPS LTD we have ...

We have instructed our creditor to recover outstanding debts, blah blah demand, blah blah legal action, blah blah do not ignore.

Pay £100 parking charge and £70 admin fee.

I thought this lot had gone away, obviously not.

Still best to ignore?

Thanks

Le_Kirk

You will be better off asking a board guide to move this discussion/thread to the parking sub-forum.  Ignore debt collectors but do not ignore letter before/of claim (they should give you 30 days and the financial forms - but you don't fill those in - rather than 14 days).  Do not ignore a N1 court claim pack from CCBC.

MSE_ForumTeam5

We've moved the thread for you

KeithP

For background, here is a link to your earlier thread...

Premier Park, parking charge notice.

D_P_Dance

Debt + initial legal costs.. £160

These are amost certainly unlawful.  Judges have dismjssed entire clains becaused of this, read this

Excel v Wilkinson

At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V Excel v Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0

patient_dream

Shame really that the left hand does not work with the right hand in the parking industry

BWL said in 2019 ..Debt + initial legal costs.. £160
WRONG the amount is "£100 ... THE OTHER £60 IS DOUBLE RECOVERY .... 
Have a read of this >>>

ABUSE OF PROCESS .... 
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6103933/abuse-of-process-thread-part-2

And then from ZZPS >>> Pay £100 parking charge and £70 admin fee

admin fee v initial legal costs , you could not make this rubbish up

WHOOPS ZZPS ARE WRONG AS WELL.   But, as said and is common practice, YOU IGNORE THE POWERLESS ZZPS

Redx

PP have 6 years to issue a court claim pack from the CCBC in Northampton

Curlyben

Had very similar happen to me recently as well.
Same start, passed to BWL, who I spanked in court, then all quiet, until a threat-o-gram from DR+.
Duly filed under "I", just awaiting the next wonderous missive..

Yeah, got some tickets left over due to miscommunication between work place and PP, but that's an even more boring story..

D_P_Dance

 Pay £100 parking charge and £70 admin fee

They have added what appears to be an extra unlawful amount for debt coolection. Judges have dismissed an entire claim because this. Read thus and complain to your MP.

Excel v Wilkinson

At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V Excel v Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0

john-306

Thanks for all info and links.

It's just over the last 2 years we'd forgotten all about this and suddenly another letter appears. 
Don't forget they linked paperwork they sent us to my previous thread on PP, so they may still be watching.
To be fair we don't mind, we've still got info, statements etc, ready to go if they want to try court.

D_P_Dance

Let them watch, at least they will know with whom they joust.  Have you complained to your MP?