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Help! Debt Recovery Plus.

Hello, I’m trying to find some advice regards Debt Recovery Plus. I have read the newbies post but it isn’t straight forward to read. I’ve got myself into a situation as I hadn’t updated my log book and debt recovery plus have therefore now located me and advised me I have two parking tickets. They have said they would do me a deal for £250 to pay off both tickets. I’m obviously to blame as I genuinely hadn’t seen the parking ticket machines and also for not updating my log book. I keep receiving letters and I have had one phone call where the staff member was threatening and not professional. Any advice would be appreciated, I’m mindful the general theme appears to be to ignore the letters however it’s causing me anxiety. I also cannot see how they can justify the charge increase it’s completely unreasonable and as I’ve read “an attempt at double recovery”.
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  • Le_Kirk
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    Block their telephone number.  Ignore true debt collector letters.  Do not ignore a letter before/of Claim.  Submit a SAR to the DPO of the PPC to find all the data they have on you.  Knowledge is power.  Submit a Data Rectification Notice to the DPO of the PPC informing them of your new address for service as and from DD/MM/YYYY.  Require them to inform all their agents and sub-contractors and to ERASE all your old data.  You do not want a sneaky CCJ by default because you did not receive a claim form.
  • D_P_Dance
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    . I’m obviously to blame as I genuinely hadn’t seen the parking ticket machines and also for not updating my log book.

    If you did not see the signs perhaps they were not sufficiently prominent.  The log book has nothing to do wth them.  Hpw is there double recovery?  Reasonableness does not enter into it, the industry is unregulated and contract law only applies.  Have you read this  

    Excel v Wilkinson


    At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V Excel v Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0

    Have you complaied to your MP.?  
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 3 August 2021 at 2:26PM
    I’m trying to find some advice regards Debt Recovery Plus. I have read the newbies post but it isn’t straight forward to read. 
    Read the 4th post there, about Debt Recovery Plus.  Look at the links, look at the advice in the 4th post.

    NOW PLEASE DO YOUR BIT AND CHANGE THINGS FOR THE FUTURE:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6286801/government-consultation-re-private-parking-charge-levels-august-2021-please-bookmark-this-thread/p1

    We need victims to respond to the Government Consultation and pour your heart out about what this scam PCN is doing to your mental health and how horrific it is that PPCs add a 'pay us or else' debt recovery layer.  Also tell them how rude and aggressive DRP are.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Le_Kirk said:
    Block their telephone number.  Ignore true debt collector letters.  Do not ignore a letter before/of Claim.  Submit a SAR to the DPO of the PPC to find all the data they have on you.  Knowledge is power.  Submit a Data Rectification Notice to the DPO of the PPC informing them of your new address for service as and from DD/MM/YYYY.  Require them to inform all their agents and sub-contractors and to ERASE all your old data.  You do not want a sneaky CCJ by default because you did not receive a claim form.
    Le Kirk what is SAR and does PPC stand private parking company 
  • D_P_Dance
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    edited 23 August 2021 at 11:02AM
    DRP is a down market member of a down market industry.  Read this and complain to your MP

    https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.debtrecoveryplus.co.uk

    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 5 September 2021 at 11:53AM
    Le_Kirk said:
    Block their telephone number.  Ignore true debt collector letters.  Do not ignore a letter before/of Claim.  Submit a SAR to the DPO of the PPC to find all the data they have on you.  Knowledge is power.  Submit a Data Rectification Notice to the DPO of the PPC informing them of your new address for service as and from DD/MM/YYYY.  Require them to inform all their agents and sub-contractors and to ERASE all your old data.  You do not want a sneaky CCJ by default because you did not receive a claim form.
    Le Kirk what is SAR and does PPC stand private parking company 
    These are in the acronyms post #5 of the newbies thread. All of this is there already.


    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Im really sorry Im suffer from extrem mental
    Health issues and Im not the brightest of all. As Im in similar situation. V5 was was not updated and I got DRP letter out of blue. Do i need yo write to the PPC  or call them to update my details and with all the info I have read I don’t understand who should I appeal to the PPC or the IPC or BPA and how should I appeal by writing or calling? Really sorry for creating a new thread.
  • D_P_Dance
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    Have you complained to your MP?
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Le_Kirk
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    Le_Kirk said:
    Block their telephone number.  Ignore true debt collector letters.  Do not ignore a letter before/of Claim.  Submit a SAR to the DPO of the PPC to find all the data they have on you.  Knowledge is power.  Submit a Data Rectification Notice to the DPO of the PPC informing them of your new address for service as and from DD/MM/YYYY.  Require them to inform all their agents and sub-contractors and to ERASE all your old data.  You do not want a sneaky CCJ by default because you did not receive a claim form.
    Le Kirk what is SAR and does PPC stand private parking company 
    Im really sorry Im suffer from extrem mental Health issues and Im not the brightest of all. As Im in similar situation. V5 was was not updated and I got DRP letter out of blue. Do i need yo write to the PPC  or call them to update my details and with all the info I have read I don’t understand who should I appeal to the PPC or the IPC or BPA and how should I appeal by writing or calling? Really sorry for creating a new thread.
    You need to create your own thread, rather than piggy-backing on someone else's, unless you are @clarab1990 and have changed your user name.  To answer some of your questions SAR = Subject Access Request and you send this to the PPC, which you have worked out is Private Parking Company.  They should send you all the data they hold on you.  You don't make telephone calls to PPCs or debt collectors, everything in writing.  When you have started your own thread, give the same details as on here and regulars can give you more advice.
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