PCM Ticket x2 for parking in an allocated park space - Mortgage on the Flat

Chippyshell

D_P_Dance said:

They have added what appears to be an extra unlawful amount for debt collection. Judges have dismissed an entire claim because of this. Read this and complain to your MP.

Excel v Wilkinson

At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V%20Excel%20v%20Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0

Also read this

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6279348/witness-statements-2-transcripts-re-parking-firms-false-costs-recorder-cohen-qc-judgment-2021/p1

I have already tried to complain to my MP but they couldn't help much 

D_P_Dance

They rarely can, but they can make life difficult for the scammers.

Chippyshell

Just an update for everyone, been on a holiday and came back to multiple letters from Trace Debt 

Since I have 4 outstanding tickets with themselves 

Letter 1  - Demanding the £100 + £70 added fee for Ticket 3
Letter 2  - Demanding the £100 + £70 added fee for Ticket 2 
Letter 3 - Currently at £100 + £60 added 'pre-action protocol' letter for Ticket 1  

Le_Kirk

Are they debt collector letters (14 days to pay)? Just ignore.  Are they letter(s) before claim (30 days to pay or respond)?  Go to second post of NEWBIE sticky and follow the advice there.  As you have been around since July, I assume you've read the NEWBIE sticky at least once.

Jenni_D

Trace can't start legal proceedings on behalf of anyone - they don't have a Legal Department (despite what their letters may say).

As such they'll just be DC rubbish.  

D_P_Dance

We advice that you ignore DCAs.

Coupon-mad

it'll be Trace pretending they are writing from a LEGAL DEPARTMENT with a 'Litigation Manager' whose name doesn't come up on Linked In and may not exist.

Ignore.  Not a legal letter.  Would be different if you had a right to appeal but without any ADR worth trying you are always better disputing it in court, at the moment.

Chippyshell

Just an update - Received a letter today from Shakespearemartineau, who have been instructed on behalf of PCM for amount of £850 covering multiple fines between July 21 to July 22 due to failure to settle the figure with TRACE DEBT recovery. 

Same threat letter from TRACE just different format and higher amount 

Jenni_D

Same old sh..... new toilet paper.  

Coupon-mad

Search the forum for Martineau to see that letter discussed before.