Empira Notice Of Enforcement

Le_Kirk

D_P_Dance said:

Have you complained to your MP?  Several tears ago Mrs May promised to reform the system, she never did. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3786132/I-ll-end-credit-rating-scandal-pledges-PM-acts-Mail-exposes-rulings-ruined-lives.html  

........ and there has been a lot of crying since then!

D_P_Dance

Indeed, I cry every time Boris does not answer a question at PMQs.

Coupon-mad

Manxman_in_exile said:

mr_smith said:

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I don't know. I did change the address it was shortly after as I was dealing with a lot of things even before
the pandemic began. They had old address and just have been kept sending letters there I guess, never looked for a new address...

I suspect you may have changed the address on your (or your partner's) driving licence, and not on the car's V5C document (used to be called "the car's logbook")?   It's the V5C that it's really important to keep up to date as that is what is used for speeding tickets and parking tickets etc.  The address on your driving licence is actually less important - but should also be kept up to date of course.

If you can't pay up your options are probably very limited, if any.

I am so sad when people with PPC CCJs don't post on the parking forum first and always get the wrong advice.  Setting aside a PARKING FIRM CCJ is easier than any other.

We win every set aside case and have done for five years or more, where a CCJ went to an old address.

UKCPM are simple to beat. 

The logbook issue is always the cause, but that is the DVLA's fault because they breach the GDPR and DPA 2018 by not updating al databases when they know a data subject has moved.  That's illegal and that is what is causing this - the DVLA - and PPCs take advantage of unreliable addresses that they know are likely to be old.

Anyhoo:

The sensible options DO NOT INCLUDE PAYING OFF THE CCJ because that doesn't wipe the damage and it gives in to an "outrageous scam" (Hansard 2.2.18) that MPs, the MHCLG and the Ministry of Justice know is caused by parking firms:

https://consult.justice.gov.uk/digital-communications/default-county-court-judgments-2/supporting_documents/defaultcountycourtjudgmentsconsultation.pdf

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/parking-code-enforcement-framework/outcome/parking-code-enforcement-framework-consultation-response

We've just been explaining that over 8 pointless pages to this person, when all they needed to do was read a few set aside threads and realise how easily it can be achieved (and no-one knows what the CCJ is all about at this stage but they still ALL get them set aside):

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6279383/ccj-parking-fine-sent-to-old-address/p1

YOUR OPTIONS ARE NOT LIMITED.  THIS IS EASY.  

PLEASE DO NOT PAY OFF THE STUPID SCAM CCJ.

COME BACK WHEN YOU HAVE READ AT LEAST A DOZEN CCJ THREADS ON THE PARKING FORUM, PLEASE.  

mr_smith

ive done alot of research, and spend the last few days on the phone. 

its too late now, i have had to set up a payment plan. my partner is ill, i cant have baliffs at the door.

Le_Kirk

But you do know that you haven't cleared the CCJ from your record - it will just be marked as "satisfied"

Coupon-mad

mr_smith said:

ive done alot of research, and spend the last few days on the phone. 

its too late now, i have had to set up a payment plan. my partner is ill, i cant have baliffs at the door.

Phone calls were pointless and you were advised badly by not posting on the parking forum.  I really wish other forums wouldn’t give bad advice when the CCJ is a easily wiped Private PCN scam one. 

These are not the same as wiping other CCJs and we never see Judges refuse.

Paying means your credit rating is now permanently ruined for 6 years from the CCJ date instead of the CCJ being completely wiped, by following the parking forum advice.  Most people pay nothing at all. 

At least tell us you negotiated a smaller sum to let them continue to trash your credit?

Manxman_in_exile

Coupon-mad said:

mr_smith said:

ive done alot of research, and spend the last few days on the phone. 

its too late now, i have had to set up a payment plan. my partner is ill, i cant have baliffs at the door.

Phone calls were pointless and you were advised badly by not posting on the parking forum.  I really wish other forums wouldn’t give bad advice when the CCJ is a easily wiped Private PCN scam one. 

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The OP was pointed to the parking board by two posters... 

GrumpyDil said:

You need to ask a board guide to move this to the parking sub board and start reading all the stickies on that board...

...The regulars on that board will be able to give you a lot of advice/assistance

Manxman_in_exile said:

If you can't pay up your options are probably very limited, if any.  If they can't give you good advice on the parking ticket board mentioned above, you could try asking for advice here:  Bailiff Advice Online

Coupon-mad

But please never say this again, it was not correct:

if you can't pay up your options are probably very limited, if any.

No-one should 'pay up' when discovering an old parking CCJ.  It's the very last thing to do, yet this OP has now done that.

Arty84

It's very hard to prove the PCN isnt yours. My ticket I was banged to rights really so tried to not pay it. I have ended up being hassled by Empira and I have checked it out and they can knock on my door. I dont want this so have paid in full.

Coupon-mad

Arty84 said:

It's very hard to prove the PCN isnt yours. My ticket I was banged to rights really so tried to not pay it. I have ended up being hassled by Empira and I have checked it out and they can knock on my door. I dont want this so have paid in full.

This is bad advice from a brand new poster, first post.  We always suspect such replies are from parking firms.  They really do not like the success of this forum and the kudos and knowledge we have.

Only a badly underinformed victim would pay a CCJ and suffer the damage for 6 years from some rogue ex-clamper, whose meritless claim and CCJ can easily be set aside.

It's very hard to prove the PCN isnt yours. 

Not sure anyone was suggesting that, and your PCN doesn't even sound like a CCJ situation, if you even had a PCN.

This case was only about pointless and aggressive ex-clampers, UKCPM, whose Trustpilot reviews make your eyes water, don't you agree?

https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.uk-carparkmanagement.co.uk

I reckon they will end up packing up their snooker table in Worthing, in 2022 and saying goodbye to their chef or whatever the perks were that we saw advertised when they were desperately trying to recruit what they called 'Customer Service' agents.  

Parking firms don't have consumer customers.,  They have victims.  This greed mentality will end.