Smart Meter Disinformation

steamer_25

As an Economy 7 customer Smart Meter pestering is becoming a nightmare. Are other consumers having problems with these devices? Having been a Yorkshire Energy customer I am now with another supplier via Scottish Power another nightmare. While I agree with the principle of smart meters I have to caution the way in which they are being deployed and how I nearly succumbed to their behaviour. Economy 7 is a bit of a throwback but I use it for dishwasher, tumble dryer, immersion etc. It's very useful and I find it economical. Unfortunately Smart Meter GB via it's advertisements and the energy companies are trying to lever me onto a Smart Meter. From internet searches they are still problematical and most unlikely to give me Economy 7 capability. For a smart device this is not the best move and canvassing neighbours gives no savings.

Tallerdave

Smart meters can do E7.

steamer_25

Tallerdave said:

Smart meters can do E7.

Could you tell the Energy companies please?

[Deleted User]

steamer_25 said:

As an Economy 7 customer Smart Meter pestering is becoming a nightmare. Are other consumers having problems with these devices? Having been a Yorkshire Energy customer I am now with another supplier via Scottish Power another nightmare. While I agree with the principle of smart meters I have to caution the way in which they are being deployed and how I nearly succumbed to their behaviour. Economy 7 is a bit of a throwback but I use it for dishwasher, tumble dryer, immersion etc. It's very useful and I find it economical. Unfortunately Smart Meter GB via it's advertisements and the energy companies are trying to lever me onto a Smart Meter. From internet searches they are still problematical and most unlikely to give me Economy 7 capability. For a smart device this is not the best move and canvassing neighbours gives no savings.

Complete and utter rubbish. I have had SMETS2 meters for nearly 2 years. I am on a dual rate tariff and I am billed on the two rates 14.63/5p per kWh. Suppliers have the option to bill based on meter readings or on 30 minute usage data. Octopus uses a single register and 30 minute usage billing.

A smart meter is nothing more than a meter which in itself will never save you any money. They do allow you to access time-of-use tariffs which are often cheaper than non smart tariffs.

MarkFromCornwall

steamer_25 said:

As an Economy 7 customer Smart Meter pestering is becoming a nightmare. Are other consumers having problems with these devices? Having been a Yorkshire Energy customer I am now with another supplier via Scottish Power another nightmare. While I agree with the principle of smart meters I have to caution the way in which they are being deployed and how I nearly succumbed to their behaviour. Economy 7 is a bit of a throwback but I use it for dishwasher, tumble dryer, immersion etc. It's very useful and I find it economical. Unfortunately Smart Meter GB via it's advertisements and the energy companies are trying to lever me onto a Smart Meter. From internet searches they are still problematical and most unlikely to give me Economy 7 capability. For a smart device this is not the best move and canvassing neighbours gives no savings.

Hi steamer_25,

You're right about there being problems with smart meters.  Stick with what you've got and ignore the pestering or use email filters to move their pester mail to your junk mail folder.

Good luck,

Mark.

steamer_25

Now now I'm only quoting Smart Meter GB advertisement. Obviously your with a supplier that integrates with SMETS2 and you understand this technology. I don't really understand the jargon you are using could you clarify dual rates and single registers or post me a link thanks.

steamer_25

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steamer_25 said:

As an Economy 7 customer Smart Meter pestering is becoming a nightmare. Are other consumers having problems with these devices? Having been a Yorkshire Energy customer I am now with another supplier via Scottish Power another nightmare. While I agree with the principle of smart meters I have to caution the way in which they are being deployed and how I nearly succumbed to their behaviour. Economy 7 is a bit of a throwback but I use it for dishwasher, tumble dryer, immersion etc. It's very useful and I find it economical. Unfortunately Smart Meter GB via it's advertisements and the energy companies are trying to lever me onto a Smart Meter. From internet searches they are still problematical and most unlikely to give me Economy 7 capability. For a smart device this is not the best move and canvassing neighbours gives no savings.

Complete and utter rubbish. I have had SMETS2 meters for nearly 2 years. I am on a dual rate tariff and I am billed on the two rates 14.63/5p per kWh. Suppliers have the option to bill based on meter readings or on 30 minute usage data. Octopus uses a single register and 30 minute usage billing.

A smart meter is nothing more than a meter which in itself will never save you any money. They do allow you to access time-of-use tariffs which are often cheaper than non smart tariffs.

Could you point me in the right direction particularly charging EV's. Obviously this technology is from the US.

steamer_25

Just been looking on Wiki never realised what a 'can of worms' I was opening.

Swipe

I'm on economy 7 and reluctantly having one installed by EDF on Friday to keep my current cheap tariff. I'll let you know how I get on.

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steamer_25 said:

Dolor said:

steamer_25 said:

As an Economy 7 customer Smart Meter pestering is becoming a nightmare. Are other consumers having problems with these devices? Having been a Yorkshire Energy customer I am now with another supplier via Scottish Power another nightmare. While I agree with the principle of smart meters I have to caution the way in which they are being deployed and how I nearly succumbed to their behaviour. Economy 7 is a bit of a throwback but I use it for dishwasher, tumble dryer, immersion etc. It's very useful and I find it economical. Unfortunately Smart Meter GB via it's advertisements and the energy companies are trying to lever me onto a Smart Meter. From internet searches they are still problematical and most unlikely to give me Economy 7 capability. For a smart device this is not the best move and canvassing neighbours gives no savings.

Complete and utter rubbish. I have had SMETS2 meters for nearly 2 years. I am on a dual rate tariff and I am billed on the two rates 14.63/5p per kWh. Suppliers have the option to bill based on meter readings or on 30 minute usage data. Octopus uses a single register and 30 minute usage billing.

A smart meter is nothing more than a meter which in itself will never save you any money. They do allow you to access time-of-use tariffs which are often cheaper than non smart tariffs.

Could you point me in the right direction particularly charging EV's. Obviously this technology is from the US.

Try this link:

https://www.smartme.co.uk/

The Octopus Go tariff that I am on is available to everyone not just EV owners.

niktheguru

steamer_25 said:

As an Economy 7 customer Smart Meter pestering is becoming a nightmare. Are other consumers having problems with these devices? Having been a Yorkshire Energy customer I am now with another supplier via Scottish Power another nightmare. While I agree with the principle of smart meters I have to caution the way in which they are being deployed and how I nearly succumbed to their behaviour. Economy 7 is a bit of a throwback but I use it for dishwasher, tumble dryer, immersion etc. It's very useful and I find it economical. Unfortunately Smart Meter GB via it's advertisements and the energy companies are trying to lever me onto a Smart Meter. From internet searches they are still problematical and most unlikely to give me Economy 7 capability. For a smart device this is not the best move and canvassing neighbours gives no savings.

I think too much googling sometimes clouds the waters.
Have you actually spoken to your supplier and asked if with a smart meter upgrade your economy 7 tariff will continue. I'm sure they will say yes.
Your economy 7 meter has two rates on a timer. A smart meter is more sophisticated and is able to take readings every 30 minutes. As a result the possibilities of "different rates" at different times of the day are endless. It has always been the case that suppliers can continue to offer economy 7 rates using smart meters. (whether they will or not depends on the supplier, and it is best to contact them direct and not rely on people on forums for that information)

The problem is people get easily scared by all the conspiracy theorists about what they can and cant do or will and wont do.
Ive had smart meters for nearly 4 years now, sometimes in smart mode, sometimes in dumb mode. My current smart meters are the latest SMETS2 ones and like Dolor I am too on octopus go faster, which is a bit like economy 7 in the sense that there are 2 rates, a higher rate for 19hrs of the day and a very low rate for 5 hours. It works out economically for me and is only available with a smart meter.

For more information try the smartme website linked in the previous post. It has a wealth of accurate and useful information.
By all means you can continue with the status quo and keep your current meter, so long as you are providing regular meter readings, but sooner or later smart meters will become compulsory. Just pick when you fancy moving!

Good luck.