the neighbour's house conditions stopping us from selling my father's house

Phil4432

GDB2222 said:

davilown said:

DayDreamerandGeneralWaster said:

 l would speak to social services as there are dependants living at the property. 

So because the property looks untidy from the outside, your assuming they’ll be an issue inside with the children?

I don’t think anyone has said that they assume there’s definitely an issue, but it’s an indication that the parents *may not* be coping. 

We had a problem tenant, annoying the neighbours with loud noise very late at night. Absolutely oblivious to our requests to be more sensible. The neighbours  called SS and said they could hear her maltreating her child. It may have been a gross exaggeration, but it did the trick. She suddenly became quiet, and shortly afterwards found somewhere else to live.

A good point.

However, right now the OP has to 'only,' report that the house next door is untidy on the SPIF form.  Better that, then have to report the neighbors next door abuse their kids. 

Grumpy_chap

Phil4432 said:

GDB2222 said:

davilown said:

DayDreamerandGeneralWaster said:

 l would speak to social services as there are dependants living at the property. 

So because the property looks untidy from the outside, your assuming they’ll be an issue inside with the children?

I don’t think anyone has said that they assume there’s definitely an issue, but it’s an indication that the parents *may not* be coping. 

We had a problem tenant, annoying the neighbours with loud noise very late at night. Absolutely oblivious to our requests to be more sensible. The neighbours  called SS and said they could hear her maltreating her child. It may have been a gross exaggeration, but it did the trick. She suddenly became quiet, and shortly afterwards found somewhere else to live.

A good point.

However, right now the OP has to 'only,' report that the house next door is untidy on the SPIF form.  Better that, then have to report the neighbors next door abuse their kids. 

I don't think they even need to say that - it is self-evident to any purchaser.
The OP needs to just sell and can currently do so saying "no dispute".  Any other action creates a dispute.

Davesnave

Grumpy_chap said:

Phil4432 said:

GDB2222 said:

davilown said:

DayDreamerandGeneralWaster said:

 l would speak to social services as there are dependants living at the property. 

So because the property looks untidy from the outside, your assuming they’ll be an issue inside with the children?

I don’t think anyone has said that they assume there’s definitely an issue, but it’s an indication that the parents *may not* be coping. 

We had a problem tenant, annoying the neighbours with loud noise very late at night. Absolutely oblivious to our requests to be more sensible. The neighbours  called SS and said they could hear her maltreating her child. It may have been a gross exaggeration, but it did the trick. She suddenly became quiet, and shortly afterwards found somewhere else to live.

A good point.

However, right now the OP has to 'only,' report that the house next door is untidy on the SPIF form.  Better that, then have to report the neighbors next door abuse their kids. 

I don't think they even need to say that - it is self-evident to any purchaser.
The OP needs to just sell and can currently do so saying "no dispute".  Any other action creates a dispute.

I was about to say that, but then I remembered the first post:

We reported it to the Environmental health and they visited and spoke to the neighbours.  We've spoken to the neighbours so have the other neighbours affected by them.  The owners appeared aggressive towards us. 

There is a paper trail already.

It's such a long thread, remembering all the details is difficult. I think everything that can usefully be said, has been.

Angela_D_3

Unless you hear or see abuse please dont call social services they are already stretched to the bone and whilst they are investing this nonsense another child could slip through the net 

Grumpy_chap

Davesnave said:

Grumpy_chap said:

Phil4432 said:

GDB2222 said:

davilown said:

DayDreamerandGeneralWaster said:

 l would speak to social services as there are dependants living at the property. 

So because the property looks untidy from the outside, your assuming they’ll be an issue inside with the children?

I don’t think anyone has said that they assume there’s definitely an issue, but it’s an indication that the parents *may not* be coping. 

We had a problem tenant, annoying the neighbours with loud noise very late at night. Absolutely oblivious to our requests to be more sensible. The neighbours  called SS and said they could hear her maltreating her child. It may have been a gross exaggeration, but it did the trick. She suddenly became quiet, and shortly afterwards found somewhere else to live.

A good point.

However, right now the OP has to 'only,' report that the house next door is untidy on the SPIF form.  Better that, then have to report the neighbors next door abuse their kids. 

I don't think they even need to say that - it is self-evident to any purchaser.
The OP needs to just sell and can currently do so saying "no dispute".  Any other action creates a dispute.

I was about to say that, but then I remembered the first post:

We reported it to the Environmental health and they visited and spoke to the neighbours.  We've spoken to the neighbours so have the other neighbours affected by them.  The owners appeared aggressive towards us. 

There is a paper trail already.

It's such a long thread, remembering all the details is difficult. I think everything that can usefully be said, has been.

Thanks - I'd forgotten too.

Doesn't change the fact that the OP needs to just sell this property and move forwards.  Perhaps their actions so far plus the high emotional ties are creating baggage mean that the OP is their own worst enemy.

It would be interesting to know the other side of this story as the neighbours may well see the OP as interfering and be glad to see the back of the OP - the state of the property may be down to some genuine and specific challenges facing the neighbour / family, either health (physical or mental), financial, or less obvious (such as caring for a relative away from the property that the OP does not see) placing additional burdens on the household such that tidying the garden is the least of their worries.

Crashy_Time

It`s not the neighbours it is the price, don`t make things up to SS, drop the price, sell and move on.

Grumpy_chap

I wonder whether the value of the property is impacted by IHT?  If so, the increased value the OP hopes to achieve by the not inconsiderable task of moving the house will be, in part, yielded out with the estate.

hb2

Skiddaw1 said:

moneysavinghero said:

I still don't get why the cats and the rats are getting along so well.

It's a bit of a misconception that cats will kill/eat rats. Many cats- even feral cats- won't take on a rat because they're both large and aggressive. They might take a baby rat if they discover a nest but rarely an adult. The cats are more likely to be 'breaking & entering' through other people's cat flaps and snatching what food they can get. Poor cats- I get very angry about that sort of thing.

My moggy frequently presents us with rats - very large ones at that (usually, but not always, dead). We get the occasional squirrel too. Mice tend to get eaten. The biggest thing he has tried to get through the cat-flap was a magpie.

Skiddaw1

There's always one!! Most of ours have been complete sissies. Our previous cat's best catch was a worm. He was also terrified of insects. I once came across him and Mr Skiddaw (also insect-phobic) standing on an armchair huddling together in fear of a large bumble bee. It was like something from Tom & Jerry.

Crashy_Time

I think the thread is starting to drift OT.