the neighbour's house conditions stopping us from selling my father's house

bozzy18

fewcloudy said:

pinkteapot said:

bozzy18 said:

it is not purely financial gain - they made my Dad's life a misery before he died.  you shouldn't be so quick to judge!

We understand.. 

You do, and I do, but sadly I am not sure you can say that about others on this thread...
If they are also understanding and well-meaning it certainly does not come across in the manner in which they speak.
They have more or less stopped giving 'advice' now, and are just giving their opinions and assertions, repeatedly and in a rather unpleasant manner in my opinion.
Sometimes it surprises me that people still come here seeking advice and support, only to have their morals and intentions questioned, but maybe that's the price to pay for occasionally getting some helpful answers

THANK YOU!  some of the responses are rather judgmental.  i was just exploring what options are available and if others have similar experience that they can share.  That AdrianC is extreme and jumped into one unfair unjustified conclusion!

bozzy18

moneysavinghero said:

I still don't get why the cats and the rats are getting along so well.

lol i expect it's cos there's so many!

NaughtiusMaximus

moneysavinghero said:

I still don't get why the cats and the rats are getting along so well.

Maybe the rats are the ones calling the shots, like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc-gx1bS8yM

cymruchris

I've had a read through but can't see anywhere that it's been asked (although I might have missed it) are the neighbours the property owners - or are they renting from an unscrupulous landlord that's letting the property go to rack and ruin as long as the rent is paid? Have you actually checked who owns the property?

bozzy18

cymruchris said:

I've had a read through but can't see anywhere that it's been asked (although I might have missed it) are the neighbours the property owners - or are they renting from an unscrupulous landlord that's letting the property go to rack and ruin as long as the rent is paid? Have you actually checked who owns the property?

yes according to land registry they own the property but there are a number of charges against it placed by a credit agency and a water company!

John_the_Boy

Air B&B for lots of parties?

Davesnave

fewcloudy said:

pinkteapot said:

bozzy18 said:

it is not purely financial gain - they made my Dad's life a misery before he died.  you shouldn't be so quick to judge!

We understand.. 

You do, and I do, but sadly I am not sure you can say that about others on this thread...
If they are also understanding and well-meaning it certainly does not come across in the manner in which they speak.

Can you point to the part of my post or GBD222's posts where we were unkind?

I agree some people here are overly keen to put across a view and weaken their persuasive power by appearing combative, but there are probably just as many of us here who have responded fairly, if dispassionately.

Grumpy_chap

bozzy18 said:

yes according to land registry they own the property but there are a number of charges against it placed by a credit agency and a water company!

The charge by the credit company may be a mortgage but, if they are not paying the water rates, nothing you do will change the neighbours or the manner they chose to keep the property - even if it is "Hobson's Choice" for the neighbours if they do not have the means & wherewithal do do anything else than they currently are.

Given the above, there are very few options actually available to the matter of selling or managing the property.  To consider these options, the OP must try (and I totally recognise that it is hard) to separate themselves from the emotion in the matter.  What happened in terms of making the father's life difficult is passed and cannot be undone.  The choices of what to do now are all that can be influenced and have been set out earlier in this thread so I will not repeat them.  All things considered, if this were me, I'd be looking to sell the property swiftly and realise the value that the property can realise given the market-value impact of the location / neighbours.  Any other option risks undue stress.

The OP has also mentioned the neighbours' behaviour in the context of the OP, describing the neighbours' behaviour as "problem", "aggressive", "uncaring", "selfish".  The neighbours may just be bad people, but the OP should be open to consider that the neighbours may have suffered and not enjoying the current status any more than the OP does:

• Physical / mental health issues
• Death in the immediate household
• Loss of income
• Unplanned increased expenditure for an unavoidable purpose (e.g. support ill relatives)
• Addiction
• etc etc

There are very few people that are fundamentally "bad" but many that suffer unfortunate circumstances.

Skiddaw1

moneysavinghero said:

I still don't get why the cats and the rats are getting along so well.

It's a bit of a misconception that cats will kill/eat rats. Many cats- even feral cats- won't take on a rat because they're both large and aggressive. They might take a baby rat if they discover a nest but rarely an adult. The cats are more likely to be 'breaking & entering' through other people's cat flaps and snatching what food they can get. Poor cats- I get very angry about that sort of thing.

AdrianC

bozzy18 said:
 That AdrianC is extreme and jumped into one unfair unjustified conclusion!

I didn't jump to any conclusions at all.

On page 1 of the thread, you said...

bozzy18 said:

moneysavinghero said:

You inherited the house as is. It's value is it's value. Don't get worked up thinking what it could be worth if only x and y happened. It hasn't cost you anything so it's not like you are losing anything. You will sell it for the right price.

i agree but for personal reasons i would want to get as much as i can for it and why should i sell for much less.  i know the value as other similar properties have been sold on the street over the past few months.

Your only remaining ongoing involvement with this property is to sell it. Correct?

Put it in an auction. It will sell.
It will sell for its market value, in the condition it is in, in the location it is in.

That location is different to those "other similar properties", for reasons that are outside of your control. You want them to be inside it, but they are simply not. All you will do is expend time, blood pressure, and money on achieving nothing to change them, delaying the sale.

Those reasons happen to be an unkempt property whose owner-occupiers do not share your opinion of appropriate living conditions, but do not appear to fall into conditions where Environmental Health will take action. It might be a pub or an industrial estate entrance or a factory.