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NCP fine, C2C railway land. No appeal afforded me other than court.

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  • Dizzyflop
    Dizzyflop Posts: 71 Forumite
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    Received the following from my MP today. 

    Thank you for your email regarding a parking charge you received at Thorpe Bay station car park. I am sorry to hear about your experience.

    You have asked me to make a formal complaint of unprofessional conduct to the oversight board of NCP. I would be happy to support you however I can.

    In the first instance however, I have written to the CEO of NCP to raise your concerns, and to ask that these charges be dropped. I will let you know when we receive a response and to discuss next steps.

    Regarding your request to contact MP xxxx, strict Parliamentary protocol means that MPs can only take action on behalf of their constituents. You will appreciate that parking is a matter for Local Government, and you may therefore like to raise your concerns with the council in this area.

    You have also mentioned that you may be pursuing this matter at County Court. If you haven’t already, you may benefit from some legal guidance on this process. In this first instance you may be able to seek some help for free at Citizen’s Advice. They can be contacted on 023 9400 6600 and you may find their advice page useful on this subject .....

    I hope that this is helpful to you and I or.a member of my team will be in touch in due course.


    Its obviously already cancelled although i am waiting for an official letter to state that instead of an email via the land owner, but thought id post this here as proof that MP's will get directly involved to have such charges cancelled if they are asked. 



  • Umkomaas
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    Pretty good response from your MP, most just don't get it. Just a bit of a knowledge gap slips in with:
    You will appreciate that parking is a matter for Local Government, and you may therefore like to raise your concerns with the council in this area.
    Then his rather larger howler:
    You have also mentioned that you may be pursuing this matter at County Court. If you haven’t already, you may benefit from some legal guidance on this process. In this first instance you may be able to seek some help for free at Citizen’s Advice. 
    In private parking in CAB know the square root of sweet FA.  Steer clear, but you won't have to as your charge is cancelled. 

    Thanks for the update with some positive and interesting reading. 👍
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,591 Forumite
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    Excellent reply from your MP.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Dizzyflop
    Dizzyflop Posts: 71 Forumite
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    Id imagine he mentioned the CAB given most of my complaint was about disability discrimination. They would most definately be able to advise and direct elsewhere on that, and if they dont know already, next time im at the CAB i will alert them to this site so they can inform the CAB team help is available on such matters. 
    Its a pretty good feeling knowing your MP will act on your behalf, even when it comes to parking tickets which is probably on the smaller scale of issues they deal with for constituents.

    I still have my response to write regarding the cancellation. I was in hospital over the weekend. 

  • Fruitcake
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    The Interpretation Act and supporting legislation applies with regards to surface mail.

    First class post is deemed to have arrived on the second working day after posting, and second class by the fourth working day.

    This is why you need proof of posting. The problem would be if a court didn't receive documents even though you could prove they were sent, and proceedings continued against you as a result. Electronic mailing reduces this risk.


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  • KeithP
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    If you haven’t already, you may benefit from some legal guidance on this process. In this first instance you may be able to seek some help for free at Citizen’s Advice. They can be contacted on 023 9400 6600 and you may find their advice page useful on this subject.

    I would be fascinated to understand why the Right Honourable Gentleman chose to give you the telephone number of the Portsmouth branch of Citizen's Advice.   :)

  • Dizzyflop
    Dizzyflop Posts: 71 Forumite
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    KeithP said:
    If you haven’t already, you may benefit from some legal guidance on this process. In this first instance you may be able to seek some help for free at Citizen’s Advice. They can be contacted on 023 9400 6600 and you may find their advice page useful on this subject.

    I would be fascinated to understand why the Right Honourable Gentleman chose to give you the telephone number of the Portsmouth branch of Citizen's Advice.   :)

    Because thats his and my constituency probably! So much for keeping his name quiet. I didnt spot that to xxx it out. 
  • Dizzyflop
    Dizzyflop Posts: 71 Forumite
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    Fruitcake said:
    The Interpretation Act and supporting legislation applies with regards to surface mail.

    First class post is deemed to have arrived on the second working day after posting, and second class by the fourth working day.

    This is why you need proof of posting. The problem would be if a court didn't receive documents even though you could prove they were sent, and proceedings continued against you as a result. Electronic mailing reduces this risk.


    Thanks Fruitcake. 
    Is this in response to the question i asked the other day, or was it meant for someone else? 

    One would presume that if they had said they sent the letter, even if it wasnt received, that in order for it to count in court they woukd have to provide evidence of the letter being posted/existing. Out of 3 letters i didnt receive, they only gave proof of 1 existing and even then no proof of postage. 


  • Fruitcake
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    edited 18 May 2021 at 4:33PM
    It was in response to your previous post. I couldn't see an answer from any of the other regulars so chipped in with my two pennyworth.

    It would depend on the judge. If a fine upstanding long established scammer like NCP said, we posted it your honour, honest guv, the judge might believe them.

    We have seen VCS say they didn't receive emails and the judge believed them. 

    It's called judge bingo.
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  • Redx
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    I would be telling said MP that private parking is not local government but the Mhclg courtesy of Robert Jenrick MP !!

    CAB are a waste of time , they know nothing about it , Sir Greg Knight MP and Rishi Sunak MP know far more about it than the CAB !! Lol
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