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Those figures are predictions from before the events of the last two weeks in the Middle East.vivalaeric said:Spoonie_Turtle said:Right now you have nothing to lose joining Tracker if they'll let you. If prices go higher than the SVT and you don't fancy gambling that they'll drop quickly enough for your liking you can always go onto the SVT (Flexible).
But if you did that, you wouldn't be able to go back onto Tracker for 9 months, which makes it a slightly more complicated decision than just hopping on and off whenever.
Energy Price Cap changesTime period
Price Cap on NEW typical use figures (1) Price Cap on OLD typical use figures (2) PREVIOUS PRICE CAP RATE
1 Jul 2023 to 30 Sept 2023
£1,976 a year £2,074 a year CURRENT PRICE CAP RATE
1 Oct 2023 to 31 Dec 2023DOWN 7%
£1,834 a year
DOWN 7%
£1,923 a year1 Jan 2024 to 31 Mar 2024
Strong prediction (3)
UP 3.5%
£1,898 a year
UP 4%
£1,996 a year1 Apr 2024 to 30 Jun 2024
Weak prediction (3)
DOWN 4%
£1,820 a year
DOWN 4%
£1,912 a year1 Jul 2024 to 30 Sep 2024
Crystal-ball gazing (3)
DOWN 2%
£1,781 a year
DOWN 2%
£1,872 a year1 Oct 2024 to 31 Dec 2024
Crystal-ball gazing (3)
UP 2.5%
£1,825 a year
UP 2%
£1,922 a year
Following the Energy Price Cap prediction, it would be bad to go Fixed for 12 months at the current price cap (rates). I think Tracker or Flexible it's the one way to not overpay (save).0 -
Predictions are best guesses and subject to revisions for want of anything better!Telegraph Sam
There are also unknown unknowns - the one's we don't know we don't know0 -
In the words of Donald Rumsfeld:"......as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know."And that's the limitation of the CI forecasts.
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That's why we call on the MSE gurus for guidance ..Telegraph Sam
There are also unknown unknowns - the one's we don't know we don't know0 -
Interesting! Does that mean they let you continue, without a smart meter, onGas tracker when your 1st year finished last month?Telegraph_Sam said:@tlcgrantham. For what it's worth I've been on non-smart-meter Tracker gas since Sept 2022 and the most recent bill is Sept 2023. "Price guaranteed until. Not applicable" Interpret that as you will ....0 -
You're the expert in such things above my pay gradeTelegraph Sam
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This is definitely worth repeating, since far too many people just look at their final prediction (a fortnight or so before Ofgem announce the genuine numbers) and think "wow, CI are really good at this!"MultiFuelBurner said:... if you have followed Cornwall Insight predictions before you know everything else could be considered absolute rubbish and they will change it multiple times before we get there to make it look like they got it right 👍
N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill Coop member.Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.0 -
On my online account it tells me my v2 gas tariff ends in April 2024. Presumably yours has an end date for September 2024. I’ve requested a smart meter for gas as I intend to remain on tracker indefinitely.0
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That's the point: I can't see any mention of any end date
Intuitively I could see a smart meter being more relevant to electricity than to gas, in my circumstances.Telegraph Sam
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The newest (variable with high cap) versions of Tracker have no end date. Presumably only those grandfathered into legacy versions will have a fixed term and annual renewal.
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