We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

CTS LAW Letter before claim Help needed

245

Comments

  • Ed30reflex
    Ed30reflex Posts: 41 Forumite
    10 Posts Name Dropper
    beamerguy said:
    The claim by CST is one MEGA FAKE.

    PARKING TICKETS ARE £100 ..... CST HAVE ADDED A FAKE £800 ?

    Asking you to pay DRP ?  CST are still totally disillusioned where DRP fit into the picture ?

    As DRP simply cannot instruct CST, they became extinct, a DODO SINCE THEIR LAST RUBBISH LETTER was sent to you

    You certainly will not be paying DRP


    The group thread for CST will help you.  You must respond to CST and do as everyone else has done ....
    ASK FOR THEIR LEGAL AUTHORITY TO ADD £800.

    AND .... in your case "PROOF THAT YOU OWE DRP £2100"

    It will be no surprise that CST never reply to these questions because they have no answers.

    No answers means that their claim is wholly unreliable

    CST letters' forum group thread

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6166004/cst-letters-forum-group-thread/p1




    Thank you Beamerguy! 

    I do agree, they are adding a high amount fake money to make me scared and anxious to pay in order for it to be the best price what is disgusting to think a-lot of people who are unaware of these forums and maybe elderly people who have been harassed by things like this.  

    Also i didn't understand your 3rd sentence,  I understand that DRP cannot instruct CST and now DRP are ''nobody'' as such however on the letter sent to me it says ''Instructed by ECP'' however my issue is the fact that if instructed by ECP then why are the payment details to DRP and not ECP, and if the payment details are meant to be to ECP and this was a mistake on CTS behalf, then who is gaining the extra £800 of fake money.

    After i send my response back to ECP issuing a SAR and explain the reasons such as, grace period, loading unloading, the extra money added, payment to DRP, time of issue / ticket. you believe they will send a letter to attend to court or drop the case at that point. Lastly when sending the SAR to ECP should i inform them i am contacting the DVLA?


  • Ed30reflex
    Ed30reflex Posts: 41 Forumite
    10 Posts Name Dropper
    Redx said:
    Redx said:
    Read the newbies FAQ sticky thread near the top of the forum , any reply denies any alleged debt and to place the matter on hold for 30 days pending a SAR reply by the claimant and to allow you to seek debt management advice. You can also add that the Jopson versus Homeguard case takes precedence on loading and unloading cases like this and will be in your defence

    Also email a SAR to the DPO at the PPC ( ECP ) and attach a copy of the V5C or 2 recent redacted copies of utility bills as proof of I D under the GDPR law to obtain all your data , do not use your passport or driving licence for this , due to data protection

    So 2 jobs to do

    Also read the CST letters group thread on here , where dozens of you have had similar letters

    Do not fill in those financial forms , do nothing with them !!
    Thank you so much!! 

    Just one thing, with the forums they have given me, do i send this back to them blank with my letter saying that i am seeking legal advice and do not claim any alleged debt? 

    I have seen a email that may be for them, so going to do both routes. 
    I said do nothing with them , which means do nothing with them , can't make it any clearer

    Yes , use eMail addresses
    Confirmed! 
  • Ed30reflex
    Ed30reflex Posts: 41 Forumite
    10 Posts Name Dropper
    Le_Kirk said:
    Just one thing, with the forums forms they have given me, do i send this back to them blank with my letter saying that i am seeking legal advice and do not claim any alleged debt? 

    I have seen a email that may be for them, so going to do both routes. 
    You do not send the forms anywhere.  You write back refuting their claim and explaining that you are seeking DEBT advice, even though you deny any debt exists and you require them to put the case on hold for 30 days in line with the pre-action protocol for debt claims section 4.2: -
    4.2 If the debtor indicates that they are seeking debt advice, the creditor must allow the debtor a reasonable period for the advice to be obtained. In any event, the creditor should not start court proceedings less than 30 days from receipt of the completed Reply Form or 30 days from the creditor providing any documents requested by the debtor, whichever is the later. 

    The reply form indicated here could be replaced by your letter/e-mail and does not refer to financial forms that the claimant has sent to you.

    just wanted to confirm appreciate the response. 
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,334 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Thank you so much for the information regarding the DVLA i did not think of this and also highly doubt they have applied each time to obtain my details. I do not have the logbook as the vehicle sold over a year ago what should i do in my case regarding the DVLA?
    Just give them proof of who you are - maybe copy of driving licence, utility bills. To be sure, why not call the DVLA and ask them to confirm the correct process if you have sold the vehicle in question. Horse's mouth .....
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Ed30reflex
    Ed30reflex Posts: 41 Forumite
    10 Posts Name Dropper
    Great, i am sure a copy of my id / utility bills will do the job as i did make them aware i had sold the car at the time too.  
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    edited 19 April 2021 at 4:55PM
    Ed30reflex i     "It says ''Instructed by ECP'' however my issue is the fact that if instructed by ECP then why are the payment details to DRP and not ECP,"

    And that is my point.  Not only are CST faking the amounts, they are also faking who to pay.

    Worth asking CST the question.

    CST and DRP are bed fellows.  Therefore CST are attempting to support DRP who are joined at the hip
    DRP have no legal right to receive any money.

    DRP are only circus clowns and CST appear to have joined the circus, 

    Lastly when sending the SAR to ECP should i inform them i am contacting the DVLA?"

    Your SAR is for collecting information they hold on you.  No point in alerting them to anything else


    CST may well be stupid enough to issue a court claim because it is a lot of money.  It will cost them to do that but ....... immediately they have a problem because to do so, they need to sign a statement of truth which is not true.  A judge could rule contempt of court against them and that is serious

    Any claim adding fake amounts will not be reliable and as such you can ask for the case to be struck out for abuse of process and to be awarded costs and as ECP are penalising you for doing your day to day business, unreasonable costs could be awarded as well.


    CST are and have always been out of their depth chasing parking tickets and it's a surprise that ECP have even instructed them.  An honest claim is one thing but trying to extort £800 from you is another
  • Ed30reflex
    Ed30reflex Posts: 41 Forumite
    10 Posts Name Dropper
    beamerguy said:
    Ed30reflex i     "It says ''Instructed by ECP'' however my issue is the fact that if instructed by ECP then why are the payment details to DRP and not ECP,"

    And that is my point.  Not only are CST faking the amounts, they are also faking who to pay.

    Worth asking CST the question.

    CST and DRP are bed fellows.  Therefore CST are attempting to support DRP who are joined at the hip
    DRP have no legal right to receive any money.

    DRP are only circus clowns and CST appear to have joined the circus, 

    Lastly when sending the SAR to ECP should i inform them i am contacting the DVLA?"

    Your SAR is for collecting information they hold on you.  No point in alerting them to anything else


    CST may well be stupid enough to issue a court claim because it is a lot of money.  It will cost them to do that but ....... immediately they have a problem because to do so, they need to sign a statement of truth which is not true.  A judge could rule contempt of court against them and that is serious

    Any claim adding fake amounts will not be reliable and as such you can ask for the case to be struck out for abuse of process and to be awarded costs and as ECP are penalising you for doing your day to day business, unreasonable costs could be awarded as well.


    CST are and have always been out of their depth chasing parking tickets and it's a surprise that ECP have even instructed them.  An honest claim is one thing but trying to extort £800 from you is another
    Top man, your response has really helped going to post office tomorrow and sending all emails today. 


  • Ed30reflex
    Ed30reflex Posts: 41 Forumite
    10 Posts Name Dropper
    beamerguy said:
    Ed30reflex i     "It says ''Instructed by ECP'' however my issue is the fact that if instructed by ECP then why are the payment details to DRP and not ECP,"

    And that is my point.  Not only are CST faking the amounts, they are also faking who to pay.

    Worth asking CST the question.

    CST and DRP are bed fellows.  Therefore CST are attempting to support DRP who are joined at the hip
    DRP have no legal right to receive any money.

    DRP are only circus clowns and CST appear to have joined the circus, 

    Lastly when sending the SAR to ECP should i inform them i am contacting the DVLA?"

    Your SAR is for collecting information they hold on you.  No point in alerting them to anything else


    CST may well be stupid enough to issue a court claim because it is a lot of money.  It will cost them to do that but ....... immediately they have a problem because to do so, they need to sign a statement of truth which is not true.  A judge could rule contempt of court against them and that is serious

    Any claim adding fake amounts will not be reliable and as such you can ask for the case to be struck out for abuse of process and to be awarded costs and as ECP are penalising you for doing your day to day business, unreasonable costs could be awarded as well.


    CST are and have always been out of their depth chasing parking tickets and it's a surprise that ECP have even instructed them.  An honest claim is one thing but trying to extort £800 from you is another
    Hi Beamerguy,

    Hope all is well. 

    Just wondering, i have got everything ready to send out now however going through some of the old papers i have built up i just wanted to double check something.

    You see how CTS LAW should not be putting the extra £60+ on top, does it change anything that it was the DRP that added the extra money on and not actually CTS LAW, although they are putting a price that is still not correct.

    Lastly i found a old letter from CTS LAW saying instructed by DRP so again i have this in paper if i did go court showing that the reason a response was made as this is all false claims and caused nothing but stress and time!
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 160,859 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 20 April 2021 at 2:02PM
    They all pretend the add the £60 and it is false, because the parking firm has never paid it.  CST have asked for it and so did DRP, because that's the money that funds and perpetuates the ambulance-chaser-style business model of these parasite firms.  Neither of them charged it.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Ed30reflex
    Ed30reflex Posts: 41 Forumite
    10 Posts Name Dropper
    I have sent a response back to ECR & CTS as-well DVLA and DPO as per our discussion. Once I have a response back, I’f I do! I will put the update here incase it helps any one else out.


Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.1K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.1K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 603.7K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.3K Life & Family
  • 261.2K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.