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beamerguy

grhuntuk said:

Umkomaas said:

We have yet to see any PE case handed over to debt collectors progress further to court. With an in-house legal team, headed by two qualified solicitors, PE are well capable of conducting litigation themselves without farming it out. It's likely that the landowner hasn't agreed to allow PE to sue, or PE have made a dog's breakfast of their initial paperwork. 

This is probably a last roll of the dice for them, in the hope they might just pick up some scratchings. DCB Limited are likely to be working on a 'no collection, no fee' basis, so a free shot for PE. 

Just to be clear I shouldn't ignore this? As reading this statement gives me the impression that its fishing and if I ignore this they will give up...

Yes, you ignore the junk from DCBL 

If you receive a letter before claim giving you 30 days to respond .... come back here

This will be the next stage of DCBL attempting to extort money ..... 

THEN, they will have explain the fake add-on of £60 ...... THEY CANNOT, 

DCBL copies from anther legal who are failures, problem is for DCBL they don't know it yet ?


DCBL letters ... forum group thread
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6237177/dcbl-letters-forum-group-thread#latest

Coupon-mad

As everyone rightly says, ParkingEye only send cases to DCBL to chase, in the hope of finding a clueless victim who falls for the threat and pays up.

If ParkingEye didn't sue you in 2018 it's unlikely they intend to, and DCBL Ltd are not a legal firm and can't/won't progress this.  They'll hand it back to Parking Eye.

What happened when you complained to the landowner as the NEWBIES thread tells you to do, in the first post (DCBL Letters were also covered, in the 4th post which shows pics of tedious debt recovery letters to ignore!).  If this was a Hospital visit (I am guessing) or maybe Aldi, then they are unlikely to sue but both Aldi and the NHS Trust can easily cancel the PCN with one email, and always could.

grhuntuk

As I stated in my post, this letter has arrived out of the blue. I never received the initial "invoice" so i have no clue who the landowner is. I'll be sending a SAR today to find out.

I suspect its Aldi too. The SAR will declare where this took place? Once I am made aware of the landowner I'll be writing to have it cancelled.

Umkomaas

A SAR will only give you the personal data they hold on you and the VRM of your vehicle. It will not give you copies of their signage, the landowner contract, who they have contracted with, nor who the landowner is.

SOME IDEAS ON DETERMINING WHO OWNS THE LAND 

1. Google searches

2. If a retail park, check on any signage which lists the on-site outlets

3. Ask retailers on the site if there is a managing agent

4. Ask retailers on the site to whom do they pay rent

5. Contact the local authority and ask who pays the non-domestic/business rate for the car park (some councils have a spreadsheet on their website)

6. Contact the local Valuation Office and ask if they know. They often have a website which might provide the information 

7. Contact The Land Registry and for around £3 they should be able to provide definitive detail

8. Give us the name of the car park, we may have seen other cases there. 

grhuntuk

I don't know who the Landowner is as I don't have a PCN. 

I only have the DCB limited notice of recovery. There is no detailed information on this letter. Only the local London area. 

I only say i suspect its Aldi as I used to use an Aldi in the area they say the PCN took place. However there are plenty more places I used with private parking in the same area. 

Umkomaas

I don't know who the Landowner is as I don't have a PCN. 

OK - the SAR should give you a copy of the original NtK/PCN which will show where the parking event (and its date) took place. That's a starting point, it's not necessarily an indication of who the landowner is. The detective work can then commence in earnest.

fisherjim

grhuntuk said:

As I stated in my post, this letter has arrived out of the blue. I never received the initial "invoice" so i have no clue who the landowner is. I'll be sending a SAR today to find out.

As you moved after the event PE would have sent the correspondence to your old address as they can only make one application to the DVLA. DCB have done a subsequent trace to find you.

SayNoToPCN

OP - PE v Beavis stated that the PCN amount included the complete costs of operation, plus a healthy profit. This must include any costs to chase debts, as that is a normal part of EVERY business. 
By adding on an amouint never, ever incurred - DCBL work on no win no fee - they are going against this judgment. They are not entitled to claim thjis amount

It is yet another parasitic firm lying cheating and acting without ethics. 

beamerguy

grhuntuk ......  get as much info as you can.   Also google   Beavis v Parking Eye because any fake claim adding £60 will mean that PE are themselves going against the Supreme court ruling and I'm certain the media would have fun with that.

If it is Aldi then contact their CEO once you have a copy of the ticket from the SAR .and get it cancelled.

On Trustpilot where Parking Eye have 98% bad comments, you can tell your story and warn people about the rubbish from DCBL
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.parkingeye.co.uk

grhuntuk

An update - I've now received the SAR from PE. 

I can 100% confirm its an Aldi car park in Streatham. A curious thing - The car park worked concurrently between Aldi and THE GYM GROUP. The gym group had set up an extended agreement with Aldi from 1.5hrs to 3hrs as many of TGG customers would use the gym facilities past the allotted 1.5hrs. I had myself applied and received the extended time. SO I can only assume ths was pre agreement.

I have contacted ALDI to have the ticket cancelled as I spend thousands a year in their stores. There's no question they'll cancel it. Though if for some reason they don't agree I will track down a receipt from the store, quite possibly the specific date and show proof of my membership at TGG. Solved.

However I have written to my MP. Anything else you'd like me to do to ?