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grhuntuk

So. I have read **** out of the NEWBIES thread. I can’t find anything when I search which pertains to this situation. 

So here goes:

I have received a letter from DCB limited  yesterday for a fine from Parking Eye in March 2018. 

We moved house. Not long after this apparent fine. We never received the initial fine. Just this letter from DCBL today. That’s all we’ve heard of it. It says it happened in an area of london. Doesn’t state who PE are representing so I can’t complain to them. I can write to my MP. I will won’t I? 

It says I can’t appeal. It says 14 days. Tomorrow’s the 14th day (came through yday. Nice) 

Action I’ll take:

1. Contact PARKINGEYE with an SAR 
2. ignore DCB limited letters. 

3. If a CCJ appears or a letter from DCBL (Legal) arrives then we'll assess. I’ll come back here?
4. Write to my MP (even though it’s in a different area to the PE fine. 

All present and correct?

D_P_Dance

I have received a letter from DCB limited  yesterday for a fine from Parking Eye in March 2018. 

It is not a fine,  Please read the newbies and complain to your MP.  Also read this

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5972164/parking-eye-signs-oxford-road-reading

Redx

1) correct , but also issue a data rectification notice to correct the address on file
2) correct
3) no CCJ can happen without a court claim , so LBC or MCOL claim pack from the CCBC in Northampton
4) correct

fisherjim

grhuntuk said:

It says I can’t appeal. It says 14 days. Tomorrow’s the 14th day (came through yday. Nice) 

The appeal window went in 2018 so you missed that then there is no appeal now that 14 days you are quoting isn't an appeal period it will be some stupid hurry up date from DCB trying to worry you.

Fruitcake

It is not a fine.

As well as sending an SAR, send a rectification notice to the DPO of ParkingLie instructing them to erase your old data and replace it with your new address for service.

This is essential so you don't get a default CCJ because the scammers will use the keeper's old address to send a court claim.

Include proof of ID with the SAR and rectification notice such as a copy of the V5C if you still have the same vehicle. If not, include redacted copies of two utility bills or bank/card statements. Do not send photo ID. Quote the PCN number as well.

Umkomaas

We have yet to see any PE case handed over to debt collectors progress further to court. With an in-house legal team, headed by two qualified solicitors, PE are well capable of conducting litigation themselves without farming it out. It's likely that the landowner hasn't agreed to allow PE to sue, or PE have made a dog's breakfast of their initial paperwork. 

This is probably a last roll of the dice for them, in the hope they might just pick up some scratchings. DCB Limited are likely to be working on a 'no collection, no fee' basis, so a free shot for PE. 

beamerguy

As Umkomaas says above.

PE are fully capable of taking court action.  By using DCBL, it indicates that this is their final try.

Assume DCBL are trying to scam you with an extra £60 being added.  Not only is this unlawful, it will create a problem for the court because ......

The Beavis v PE case in the supreme court which still applies, ruled the parking ticket includes operation costs.  DCBL are going against the ruling and if DCBL took you to court on behalf of PE, they would have to explain why PE are also going against the Supreme Court ?

PE normally pass the buck if they know they will fail.  The reasoning being "that it's no skin off their nose to get DCBL to do a freebie chase up, they might get lucky"


Something that DCBL don't seem to understand that they are being used and abused

grhuntuk

beamerguy said:

As Umkomaas says above.

PE are fully capable of taking court action.  By using DCBL, it indicates that this is their final try.

Assume DCBL are trying to scam you with an extra £60 being added.  Not only is this unlawful, it will create a problem for the court because ......

The Beavis v PE case in the supreme court which still applies, ruled the parking ticket includes operation costs.  DCBL are going against the ruling and if DCBL took you to court on behalf of PE, they would have to explain why PE are also going against the Supreme Court ?

PE normally pass the buck if they know they will fail.  The reasoning being "that it's no skin off their nose to get DCBL to do a freebie chase up, they might get lucky"


Something that DCBL don't seem to understand that they are being used and abused

Pardon my ignorance I am not legally clued up whatsoever. Can you be so kind as to explain how it is in-contravention of the Beavis rule...?

grhuntuk

Umkomaas said:

We have yet to see any PE case handed over to debt collectors progress further to court. With an in-house legal team, headed by two qualified solicitors, PE are well capable of conducting litigation themselves without farming it out. It's likely that the landowner hasn't agreed to allow PE to sue, or PE have made a dog's breakfast of their initial paperwork. 

This is probably a last roll of the dice for them, in the hope they might just pick up some scratchings. DCB Limited are likely to be working on a 'no collection, no fee' basis, so a free shot for PE. 

Just to be clear I shouldn't ignore this? As reading this statement gives me the impression that its fishing and if I ignore this they will give up...

grhuntuk

Furthermore I've just searched Parking Eyes quarterly financial statements with Companies House and they're in debt and looking at insolvency.

Which is nice.

Umkomaas

grhuntuk said:

Umkomaas said:

We have yet to see any PE case handed over to debt collectors progress further to court. With an in-house legal team, headed by two qualified solicitors, PE are well capable of conducting litigation themselves without farming it out. It's likely that the landowner hasn't agreed to allow PE to sue, or PE have made a dog's breakfast of their initial paperwork. 

This is probably a last roll of the dice for them, in the hope they might just pick up some scratchings. DCB Limited are likely to be working on a 'no collection, no fee' basis, so a free shot for PE. 

Just to be clear I shouldn't ignore this? As reading this statement gives me the impression that its fishing and if I ignore this they will give up...

I'm suggesting that you do ignore anything from DCB Limited (different to their litigation arm, DCB Legal)  as they are acting as debt collectors and all they can do is send 'threatening' letters; they can take no action against you. I'm not saying they will give up easily, but at some stage they will either have to do that, or pass the case back to their client.