UK CPS - Birchin Way, Grimsby

Castle

And a total failure to provide the data subject with a privacy notice contrary to GDPR.

MothballsWallet

Castle said:

And a total failure to provide the data subject with a privacy notice contrary to GDPR.

Would the ICO want to know about that? Would they actually care?

D_P_Dance

You cannot agree to do something, (i.e. enter a contract), to do something, if it is forbidden.   Some  reading,

https://www.google.com/search?

https://www.google.com/search?q=parking+forbidding+signs&oq=parking+forbidding+signs&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30l2.12197j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

AnotherForumite

KeithP said:

Beechy74 said:

Umkomaas said:

Beechy74 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Isn't this another one about the scam no stopping zone in Piccadilly, Manchester?  If so, the group thread about that place answers all your questions.

Or is Birchin Way another brand new scam no stopping zone?

Grimsby - I see your thread title tells us (sorry, missed that)!

Double red lines or double yellows?

Its double yellows. As a Taxi, its feasible to be picking up because a lot of the time, you cannot turn right because of the queuing traffic. 

Any photos?  Are there Local Authority signs alongside and referencing those DYLs?  Do you have photos showing the UKCPS signage distribution and contents detail?

That sign is what is known as a forbidding sign.

A driver cannot agree a contract for something that is forbidden.

And keep in mind... stopping is not parking. So how can they even suggest that by stopping, a 'parking charge' is payable?

Are there any other signs with different wording? Perhaps with more comprehensive T&Cs?

The charge will relate to a contractual license rather than a simple contract i.e motorists are welcome to use the land on the proviso that they do not stop.

’Parking Charge’ is a generic term used by POFA.

Umkomaas

AnotherForumite said:

KeithP said:

Beechy74 said:

Umkomaas said:

Beechy74 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Isn't this another one about the scam no stopping zone in Piccadilly, Manchester?  If so, the group thread about that place answers all your questions.

Or is Birchin Way another brand new scam no stopping zone?

Grimsby - I see your thread title tells us (sorry, missed that)!

Double red lines or double yellows?

Its double yellows. As a Taxi, its feasible to be picking up because a lot of the time, you cannot turn right because of the queuing traffic. 

Any photos?  Are there Local Authority signs alongside and referencing those DYLs?  Do you have photos showing the UKCPS signage distribution and contents detail?

That sign is what is known as a forbidding sign.

A driver cannot agree a contract for something that is forbidden.

And keep in mind... stopping is not parking. So how can they even suggest that by stopping, a 'parking charge' is payable?

Are there any other signs with different wording? Perhaps with more comprehensive T&Cs?

The charge will relate to a contractual license rather than a simple contract i.e motorists are welcome to use the land on the proviso that they do not stop.

’Parking Charge’ is a generic term used by POFA.

In which case the charge is not a contractual charge, but a disguised penalty.

Beechy74

KeithP said:

Beechy74 said:

Umkomaas said:

Beechy74 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Isn't this another one about the scam no stopping zone in Piccadilly, Manchester?  If so, the group thread about that place answers all your questions.

Or is Birchin Way another brand new scam no stopping zone?

Grimsby - I see your thread title tells us (sorry, missed that)!

Double red lines or double yellows?

Its double yellows. As a Taxi, its feasible to be picking up because a lot of the time, you cannot turn right because of the queuing traffic. 

Any photos?  Are there Local Authority signs alongside and referencing those DYLs?  Do you have photos showing the UKCPS signage distribution and contents detail?

That sign is what is known as a forbidding sign.

A driver cannot agree a contract for something that is forbidden.

And keep in mind... stopping is not parking. So how can they even suggest that by stopping, a 'parking charge' is payable?

Are there any other signs with different wording? Perhaps with more comprehensive T&Cs?

Thanks KeithP. I'll be visiting that site again in the next few days, so i'll have a proper look. 

Coupon-mad

AnotherForumite said:

KeithP said:

Beechy74 said:

Umkomaas said:

Beechy74 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Isn't this another one about the scam no stopping zone in Piccadilly, Manchester?  If so, the group thread about that place answers all your questions.

Or is Birchin Way another brand new scam no stopping zone?

Grimsby - I see your thread title tells us (sorry, missed that)!

Double red lines or double yellows?

Its double yellows. As a Taxi, its feasible to be picking up because a lot of the time, you cannot turn right because of the queuing traffic. 

Any photos?  Are there Local Authority signs alongside and referencing those DYLs?  Do you have photos showing the UKCPS signage distribution and contents detail?

That sign is what is known as a forbidding sign.

A driver cannot agree a contract for something that is forbidden.

And keep in mind... stopping is not parking. So how can they even suggest that by stopping, a 'parking charge' is payable?

Are there any other signs with different wording? Perhaps with more comprehensive T&Cs?

The charge will relate to a contractual license rather than a simple contract i.e motorists are welcome to use the land on the proviso that they do not stop.

’Parking Charge’ is a generic term used by POFA.

You'd need to open your wallet and buy some red paint first, though, if you were to do this.

AnotherForumite

Umkomaas said:

AnotherForumite said:

KeithP said:

Beechy74 said:

Umkomaas said:

Beechy74 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Isn't this another one about the scam no stopping zone in Piccadilly, Manchester?  If so, the group thread about that place answers all your questions.

Or is Birchin Way another brand new scam no stopping zone?

Grimsby - I see your thread title tells us (sorry, missed that)!

Double red lines or double yellows?

Its double yellows. As a Taxi, its feasible to be picking up because a lot of the time, you cannot turn right because of the queuing traffic. 

Any photos?  Are there Local Authority signs alongside and referencing those DYLs?  Do you have photos showing the UKCPS signage distribution and contents detail?

That sign is what is known as a forbidding sign.

A driver cannot agree a contract for something that is forbidden.

And keep in mind... stopping is not parking. So how can they even suggest that by stopping, a 'parking charge' is payable?

Are there any other signs with different wording? Perhaps with more comprehensive T&Cs?

The charge will relate to a contractual license rather than a simple contract i.e motorists are welcome to use the land on the proviso that they do not stop.

’Parking Charge’ is a generic term used by POFA.

In which case the charge is not a contractual charge, but a disguised penalty.

Nope, breach of contractual license.

Fruitcake

The signs are right next to a set of double yellow lines that denote No Parking. They do not denote No Stopping, so the wording on the signs conflict with the meaning of the yellow lines.
As already mentioned, if the signs were next to double red lines then that would be different.

AnotherForumite

Road markings are meaningless on private land; unless the contract makes reference to them that is.