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UK CPS - Birchin Way, Grimsby

Beechy74
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edited 4 April 2021 at 12:08PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
This is a new trap thats gone up recently. Basically, its turning into a little service area. Costa, Maccys, Subway, KFC and a Wickes store. The charge is  for 'No Stopping'. I've attached the letter. The driver actually stopped for a few minutes to inflate a tyre with Tyreweld as it was going down. Also, the queues to KFC also have stationary traffic on the double yellows where the signs have gone up. So i wouldnt be surprised if they start getting 'fines'. Those queues would be immidiately right of where the vehicle in the grainy image is. 
The letter states 'parking' initially then in the reason for issue its 'No Stopping'. On previous reading am i right in thinking they have broken KADOE by requesting details for such a charge?  The vehicle could also be waiting to turn right  but is often unable too because of the queue for KFC and if the driver wanted to go to Wickes, for example, they would have to either wait to be let in or drive on the wrong side of the road. 
Its a MNPR with some knob jockey sitting in his car with his camera.
Anyway, Happy Easter y'all. 

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  • Redx
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    edited 4 April 2021 at 12:10PM
    I do not believe that you can prove that UK cps have broken a Kadoe contract , the DVLA will fob you off with the words reasonable cause !!

    The newbies FAQ sticky thread near the top of the forum gives you advice , but there is no easy getout unless you complain to the retail park , plan A
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 4 April 2021 at 1:24PM
    Isn't this another one about the scam no stopping zone in Piccadilly, Manchester?  If so, the group thread about that place answers all your questions.

    Or is Birchin Way another brand new scam no stopping zone?

    Grimsby - I see your thread title tells us (sorry, missed that)!

    Double red lines or double yellows?
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  • Umkomaas
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    edited 4 April 2021 at 1:32PM
    Isn't this another one about the scam no stopping zone in Piccadilly, Manchester?  If so, the group thread about that place answers all your questions.

    Or is Birchin Way another brand new scam no stopping zone?

    Grimsby - I see your thread title tells us (sorry, missed that)!

    Double red lines or double yellows?
    It's Grimsby (thread title), looks like it's a road maintained at public expense!

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    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • D_P_Dance
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    Have you complained to your MP?
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Beechy74
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    Isn't this another one about the scam no stopping zone in Piccadilly, Manchester?  If so, the group thread about that place answers all your questions.

    Or is Birchin Way another brand new scam no stopping zone?

    Grimsby - I see your thread title tells us (sorry, missed that)!

    Double red lines or double yellows?
    Its double yellows. As a Taxi, its feasible to be picking up because a lot of the time, you cannot turn right because of the queuing traffic. 
  • Beechy74
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    D_P_Dance said:
    Have you complained to your MP?
    Not yet but that will be happening.
  • Umkomaas
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    Beechy74 said:
    Isn't this another one about the scam no stopping zone in Piccadilly, Manchester?  If so, the group thread about that place answers all your questions.

    Or is Birchin Way another brand new scam no stopping zone?

    Grimsby - I see your thread title tells us (sorry, missed that)!

    Double red lines or double yellows?
    Its double yellows. As a Taxi, its feasible to be picking up because a lot of the time, you cannot turn right because of the queuing traffic. 
    Any photos?  Are there Local Authority signs alongside and referencing those DYLs?  Do you have photos showing the UKCPS signage distribution and contents detail?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Coupon-mad
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    Double yellows can be stopped on.  You can pick up and drop off passengers on them and you can wait while something is loaded or unloaded. 

    This is a misleading business practice so report them to Trading Standards, pointing out what DYL really mean in case they are stupid and think they do mean 'no stopping', as too many people do.
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  • Beechy74
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    Umkomaas said:
    Beechy74 said:
    Isn't this another one about the scam no stopping zone in Piccadilly, Manchester?  If so, the group thread about that place answers all your questions.

    Or is Birchin Way another brand new scam no stopping zone?

    Grimsby - I see your thread title tells us (sorry, missed that)!

    Double red lines or double yellows?
    Its double yellows. As a Taxi, its feasible to be picking up because a lot of the time, you cannot turn right because of the queuing traffic. 
    Any photos?  Are there Local Authority signs alongside and referencing those DYLs?  Do you have photos showing the UKCPS signage distribution and contents detail?
    Yeah, these two and there are a few more dotted about.
  • KeithP
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    edited 4 April 2021 at 11:14PM
    Beechy74 said:
    Umkomaas said:
    Beechy74 said:
    Isn't this another one about the scam no stopping zone in Piccadilly, Manchester?  If so, the group thread about that place answers all your questions.

    Or is Birchin Way another brand new scam no stopping zone?

    Grimsby - I see your thread title tells us (sorry, missed that)!

    Double red lines or double yellows?
    Its double yellows. As a Taxi, its feasible to be picking up because a lot of the time, you cannot turn right because of the queuing traffic. 
    Any photos?  Are there Local Authority signs alongside and referencing those DYLs?  Do you have photos showing the UKCPS signage distribution and contents detail?

    That sign is what is known as a forbidding sign.

    A driver cannot agree a contract for something that is forbidden.

    And keep in mind... stopping is not parking. So how can they even suggest that by stopping, a 'parking charge' is payable?

    Are there any other signs with different wording? Perhaps with more comprehensive T&Cs?
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