Government CoP/CoE update.

beamerguy

I don't agree with a 3 tier system, this will confuse and will certainly confuse judges and will create arguments as to which tier.. Let's face it, some judges cannot even get to grips with Beavis  and abuse of process. 

blackdog2220

Coupon-mad said:

On these types of land, more serious breaches of the terms and conditions can incur a parking charge of up to £70 and less serious breaches up to £50.

It is noticeable that the suggested £70 is not reflected in the tables below that statement.

So let's hope they had a re-think and realised that you can't clutter a single sign in a supermarket/cinema/GP surgery (publicly invited) car park with more than one list of 'breaches' and two different parking charge contracts.

The danger is, more car parking firms will no doubt try to find a way of making a car park a 'permit only' car park.  What counts as permit only, would Aldi car parks where you have to input your VRM fall within 'permit only' and thus be allowed £100 charges?  That will need addressing to stop that happening.

And people who are permitted, and can prove it retrospectively, must be protected against those punitive £100 charges and not charged £20 

dont do "permits" at aldi , lidl ,if enter details on faulty equipment that DOES NOT GIVE RECEPT clearly stating the time and the vrn , and date contract ceases , or is it continuous?   i am there to buy food , not sit down and sign a contract , , but I have to agree with others , its not going to be worth the effort of CC in many cases , 

Fruitcake

Stopping in a no stopping zone, for example on an airport road. £100. Kerching!
Byelaws aside, that's just nasty, and it isn't parking.

beamerguy

Fruitcake said:

Stopping in a no stopping zone, for example on an airport road. £100. Kerching!
Byelaws aside, that's just nasty, and it isn't parking.

Mind you, with airport traffic down some 80% at present it is "kerching"

Coupon-mad

Fruitcake said:

Stopping in a no stopping zone, for example on an airport road. £100. Kerching!
Byelaws aside, that's just nasty, and it isn't parking.

Hopefully the final PAS232 will include a minimum observation time, if camera cars are not curtailed altogether. 

One can but hope that common sense will prevail.  The MHCLG's published conclusions so far look encouraging.

Snakes_Belly

beamerguy said:

Fruitcake said:

Stopping in a no stopping zone, for example on an airport road. £100. Kerching!
Byelaws aside, that's just nasty, and it isn't parking.

Mind you, with airport traffic down some 80% at present it is "kerching"

Not likely to recover this summer. Probably going to be worse that last summer as the virus is spreading through Europe in a third wave.

Snakes_Belly

Hopefully if the new CoP gets some publicity it may make people more aware and result in less PCN's and lower value PCN's

Half_way

One issue for starters:
there is a conflict between the blue badge scheme and the equality act, where someone may have a disability that affects mobility and they need to use a wide space to get in and out of a vehicle, but may not possess a blue badge, likewise in an anpr car park where extra time is required to do a shop.

Snakes_Belly

No details on the activities of the debt collection agents yet. It will be interesting to see if they will have to be regulated. I do hope so. 

It will also be interesting to see the point at which the speculative invoice actually becomes a debt.

nosferatu1001

Indeed; it is not a "blue badge space" on private land. No such thing exists. Unless the govt redefines the EA to require their use on private land, which would be a loss in many ways, the name is bound to b3e an issue