Advice For Tenants

JackAndJill

unforeseen said:

The LL needs to give notice at the start of the tenancy that they will be giving notice under S8 ground 1.
https://landlordlawblog.co.uk/2016/01/27/grounds-for-eviction-ground-1-returning-owner-occupier/
This assumes that the LL has previously used that property as their main residence. If not they are pi**ing into the wind

grumiofoundation said:

JackAndJill said:

With the above you are just playing the system. They were given a 12 month tenancy. When the owner does not want to extend then that’s it. The owners choice

JackAndJill said:

TheCatSitter said:

The previous letter we had already sent to the landlords has been answered through the agency this morning anyway. Stating they wish us to leave on the date the tenancy ends and will not enter into further communication regarding the matter and that no negotiations for an alternative outcome will be considered.

Oh shock, I was correct!

No you weren't correct. Your time might be better spent reading up on some basic tenancy law (links provided in this thread and in stickies at top of board) rather than your incorrect and unhelpful/nasty (delete whichever you feel appropriate) posts.

The agents/landlord might want the OP to leave on the date the fixed term ends - this is NOT the date the tenancy ends - but this doesn't mean the OP needs to or indeed should. 

It’s irrelevant lockdown will be over soon and then the limit is two months. They will get served notice two months before the end of the tenancy.

LL ain’t !!!!!! in the wind. Several other ways the LL can deal with it

swingaloo2

JackAndJill said:

unforeseen said:

The LL needs to give notice at the start of the tenancy that they will be giving notice under S8 ground 1.
https://landlordlawblog.co.uk/2016/01/27/grounds-for-eviction-ground-1-returning-owner-occupier/
This assumes that the LL has previously used that property as their main residence. If not they are pi**ing into the wind

grumiofoundation said:

JackAndJill said:

With the above you are just playing the system. They were given a 12 month tenancy. When the owner does not want to extend then that’s it. The owners choice

JackAndJill said:

TheCatSitter said:

The previous letter we had already sent to the landlords has been answered through the agency this morning anyway. Stating they wish us to leave on the date the tenancy ends and will not enter into further communication regarding the matter and that no negotiations for an alternative outcome will be considered.

Oh shock, I was correct!

No you weren't correct. Your time might be better spent reading up on some basic tenancy law (links provided in this thread and in stickies at top of board) rather than your incorrect and unhelpful/nasty (delete whichever you feel appropriate) posts.

The agents/landlord might want the OP to leave on the date the fixed term ends - this is NOT the date the tenancy ends - but this doesn't mean the OP needs to or indeed should. 

It’s irrelevant lockdown will be over soon and then the limit is two months. They will get served notice two months before the end of the tenancy.

LL ain’t !!!!!! in the wind. Several other ways the LL can deal with it

When the rules change back from 6 months there will still be a long delay before the courts catch up so the tenants have plenty of time to find somewhere.  Thats also assuming that the notice is watertight otherwise they may stay as long as they like.
You seem to be trying to scare the OP instead of helping.

cornfield

Did you see the electricial report when you took out the tenancy ? its a requirement now every new tenancy since last June if you have a broken socket thats not good 

TheCatSitter

Cornfield - We haven’t seen it, it should of been handed to us on move in with the pack. I cannot locate there. However when previously saying about the electrics several times I was advised that a full wiring check was done just before move in which was December, so I doubt that would be untrue as it’s a fully managed property again with a major agency.

Thanks x

sammyjammy

OP the best thing you can do know is concentrate on looking after the MIL and trying to get on with your lives.  Chase up a complaint about the £100 - thats disgusting!  In the meantime gather your evidence, keep off their radar and see what next steps they make, it might surprise you how incompetent some managing agents can be when it comes to S21s etc.

Best of luck

JackAndJill

TheCatSitter said:

I have been going through the contract again, and I’m guessing it doesn’t make much difference there is a mistake make on the contract?

On one of the first few pages on the summary of the contract it stated to pay X amount on this date. Then all further payments of X amount to me paid monthly thereafter on X date of each month.

Then much later in the contract stating rent to be paid in six months and six months again.

Thank you everyone x

Won’t make the slightest difference another “loop hole” to stay past your agreed tenancy you won’t be able to use

TheCatSitter

Good Afternoon,

Just an update from all those giving advice (and thank you).

We asked the agency about the £100 again, this is being totally ignored in emails again. As if it hasn’t been mentioned.

The electrical socket still not working hasn’t been spoken about.

The agency nor landlords are not willing to help give the deposit back in advance of moving out. Nor cover any improvements spent on the house.

We asked if we look for property in these 9 months and something does come up, because our circumstances are limited and area is limited, if we give them a months notice will they allow us to leave early, because this is something we will need to keep on top of, with how quick houses go and in addition to our circumstances finding a new landlord.

However the answer is if we find somewhere they will approach the landlord at that point, make no commitments now. They are notoriously slow at their responding time and for sure a property won’t stay available that long. 

More of a rant than a question I guess

Xx

macman

Of course you are not going to get your deposit back before you leave, there would be little purpose in requesting a deposit if this were the case. Your deposit is not held by the LL anyway, it should be protected in one of the deposit schemes, and they decide what you get back.
You really need to focus on the core issues here, not concern yourself with a non-working socket, a small bung to the LA etc. None of these have any bearing on the circumstances under which notice can be given, it's duration, and how long it might take the LL to gain a possession order once your notice period ends.
The LA's response is exactly what yours should be: you will enter into no discussion about giving up occupation until such time as notice is formally given and served.

TheCatSitter

You’re right MacMan, thank you x

ChewyyBacca

Lover_of_Lycra said:

@TheCatSitter, in the private rental sector of England and Wales there are no long term lets.  The longest you are likely to ever get is 12 months.  Regardless of what any landlord or letting agent tells you at the start you won't really ever be protected for more than a year at a time.   

Lover_of_Lycra About 12 months let being the longest:
My current AST was drawn out to be 2 years fixed, and currently in rolling for more than 1 year now.
My new AST is proposed to be again 2 years fixed (even though I didn't ask for it :-])
So I guess one can get lets longer than 12 months. Or am I missing something?
Thanks much