Boss Not So Subtly Forcing Me Back To Work

NinjaTune

It's a shame your Dad doesn't have anyone living closer who he can form a support bubble with.  I imagine it restricts how often you can visit him if you have to travel 100 miles each time.  Sorry to hear he has tested positive for COVID, I hope he gets better soon.  If he doesn't go out and you are the only person who visits him then, yes, it's likely that you were asymptomatic and passed the virus onto him.

SSP sounds the correct payment as you are not able to be called into work during the self-isolation period.  

justworriedabit

booneruk said:

justworriedabit said:

HampshireH said:

I really cannot see the problem here.

Your employer gave you furlough to look after your kids. As you requested.

You have then travelled 100miles away in lockdown and are unable to look after your kids so therefore no requirement for furlough.

Instead your reason for now not working is isolating and therefore SSP would apply.

Your now calling your employer a bully when they are simply following the rules and putting you on SSP. If you have evidence of historical bullying of course that's valid. But the word bully in the scenario described isn't.

They aren't forcing you back to work as you will be going on SSP. 

As you are resigning I would suggest not citing bullying unless you have evidence of it.

You may "not see the problem" as detailed by the OP but it is a problem for them, hence their post.
We all have different levels of everything that makes us what we are and if someone posts here for help, I won't be saying that.
It is the OP's experience, perception of the situation and that is fine by me.

If anyone takes umbrage at an employers' request for them to work and suffers this "problem" then they can seek alternative employment, as has been mentioned several times now.

If you don't ask, demand you may never get it and therefore the OP has every right to ask especially in their situation.

sheramber

If you don't ask, demand you may never get it and therefore the OP has every right to ask especially in their situation.

It is nothing to do with asking,
The OP has had furlough so that is not a problem.
Now his employer wants him back in work so he had to tell him that he has to self isolate with his dad ( so presumably is not child caring ) so is   not entitled to furlough.
But the OP does not want SSP, he wants to continue of furlough.
Furlough is not a right. it is the employer's choice whether to use it or not.
it is also not to be used for self isolation. The correct treatment is company sick pay, SSP, annual leave or unpaid leave.

68ComebackSpecial

justworriedabit said:

booneruk said:

justworriedabit said:

HampshireH said:

I really cannot see the problem here.

Your employer gave you furlough to look after your kids. As you requested.

You have then travelled 100miles away in lockdown and are unable to look after your kids so therefore no requirement for furlough.

Instead your reason for now not working is isolating and therefore SSP would apply.

Your now calling your employer a bully when they are simply following the rules and putting you on SSP. If you have evidence of historical bullying of course that's valid. But the word bully in the scenario described isn't.

They aren't forcing you back to work as you will be going on SSP. 

As you are resigning I would suggest not citing bullying unless you have evidence of it.

You may "not see the problem" as detailed by the OP but it is a problem for them, hence their post.
We all have different levels of everything that makes us what we are and if someone posts here for help, I won't be saying that.
It is the OP's experience, perception of the situation and that is fine by me.

If anyone takes umbrage at an employers' request for them to work and suffers this "problem" then they can seek alternative employment, as has been mentioned several times now.

If you don't ask, demand you may never get it and therefore the OP has every right to ask especially in their situation.

You can't "demand" something you're not entitled to! It would appear they have already asked and the employer is not prepared to further accommodate them - as is their right - after already supporting them for two months. 

The_Real_Cheddar_Bob

I'm pretty sure furlough is for employers who can not afford to keep staff whilst partially or fully closed. 
Being furloughed for child care is a generous take on the furlough system. 

millie

The_Real_Cheddar_Bob said:

I'm pretty sure furlough is for employers who can not afford to keep staff whilst partially or fully closed. 
Being furloughed for child care is a generous take on the furlough system. 

I thought that too. My daughter-in-law has had to take unpaid leave. I thought the furlough scheme was for staff who could not work because the workplace was closed. 

gary83

millie said:

The_Real_Cheddar_Bob said:

I'm pretty sure furlough is for employers who can not afford to keep staff whilst partially or fully closed. 
Being furloughed for child care is a generous take on the furlough system. 

I thought that too. My daughter-in-law has had to take unpaid leave. I thought the furlough scheme was for staff who could not work because the workplace was closed. 

It was originally but over the months it got watered down so much & everyone forgot that. 

Expect a lot more posts like this over the next few weeks & months, a lot of people have got far too comfortable on furlough. 

Thrugelmir

gary83 said:

millie said:

The_Real_Cheddar_Bob said:

I'm pretty sure furlough is for employers who can not afford to keep staff whilst partially or fully closed. 
Being furloughed for child care is a generous take on the furlough system. 

I thought that too. My daughter-in-law has had to take unpaid leave. I thought the furlough scheme was for staff who could not work because the workplace was closed. 

Expect a lot more posts like this over the next few weeks & months, a lot of people have got far too comfortable on furlough. 

In the future the realisation that furlough wasn't a free hand out either. The bill has yet to be paid. 

Barny1979

Thrugelmir said:

gary83 said:

millie said:

The_Real_Cheddar_Bob said:

I'm pretty sure furlough is for employers who can not afford to keep staff whilst partially or fully closed. 
Being furloughed for child care is a generous take on the furlough system. 

I thought that too. My daughter-in-law has had to take unpaid leave. I thought the furlough scheme was for staff who could not work because the workplace was closed. 

Expect a lot more posts like this over the next few weeks & months, a lot of people have got far too comfortable on furlough. 

In the future the realisation that furlough wasn't a free hand out either. The bill has yet to be paid. 

I'm waiting for all those in the future who were on furlough criticising those on the dole.

unholyangel

Thrugelmir said:

gary83 said:

millie said:

The_Real_Cheddar_Bob said:

I'm pretty sure furlough is for employers who can not afford to keep staff whilst partially or fully closed. 
Being furloughed for child care is a generous take on the furlough system. 

I thought that too. My daughter-in-law has had to take unpaid leave. I thought the furlough scheme was for staff who could not work because the workplace was closed. 

Expect a lot more posts like this over the next few weeks & months, a lot of people have got far too comfortable on furlough. 

In the future the realisation that furlough wasn't a free hand out either. The bill has yet to be paid. 

Still haven't paid  the previous bills from the triple dip and subsequent issues. We won't be paying this one. Future generations not yet born wil be lumped with it.