PCN Leeds Beckett University

boy_george

Parked at the Rose Bowl at Leeds Beckett Uni a car park managed by CPP Car Parking Partnership.  Arrived back 10 minutes after allocated time and received PCN - should I appeal?

Redx

Your choice , but if you do read the BPA CoP clause 13 grace periods , plus read the newbies FAQ sticky thread near the top of the forum , third thread down

As for the facts , we haven't seen the signage , haven't seen the CPP contract with the university , we don't know if CPP complied with POFA (the law) or not. Meaning you haven't given us the facts yet expect an answer , you don't get that at university , answers depend on facts !!

boy_george

Thanks for your help - I think that the grace period sounds the way go - do you you have an idea of how I may find out what this particular site agreement is in relation to grace periods please?

Le_Kirk

boy_george said:

I think that the grace period sounds the way go - do you you have an idea of how I may find out what this particular site agreement is in relation to grace periods please?

Redx said:

Your choice , but if you do read the BPA CoP clause 13 grace periods , plus read the newbies FAQ sticky thread near the top of the forum , third thread down

The answer was quite clearly written by @Redx for you.

Peeves

boy_george said:

Thanks for your help - I think that the grace period sounds the way go - do you you have an idea of how I may find out what this particular site agreement is in relation to grace periods please?

The latest code of practice is January 2020 and the grace period is section 13.

https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_January_2020_v8(2).pdf

It's worth noting that these are the rules they set for themselves. If they have given you even less time than their own codes that's a good defence. But the codes are not the law. The law requires you need to have the opportunity to become familiar with the terms before a contract can be binding. If signs direct you on a five mile hike to find the terms then you require much more time.

Umkomaas

Date of parking event?
Windscreen ticket, or photo of vehicle entry/exit captured by ANPR camera?
Date of Issue shown on the first letter you received?
Does the letter have a paragraph headed 'Protection of Freedoms Act'?

boy_george

Date of event 25-02-21 and date of issue 01/03/31.  ANPR camera and does have a 'protection of feedoms act' paragraph.

Thank you

Umkomaas

boy_george said:

Date of event 25-02-21 and date of issue 01/03/31.  ANPR camera and does have a 'protection of feedoms act' paragraph.

Thank you

Prima facie, they meet the requirements of PoFA to hold the keeper liable, so that's one rabbit hole blocked.  

boy_george

Umkomaas said:

boy_george said:

Date of event 25-02-21 and date of issue 01/03/31.  ANPR camera and does have a 'protection of feedoms act' paragraph.

Thank you

Prima facie, they meet the requirements of PoFA to hold the keeper liable, so that's one rabbit hole blocked.  

Is this bad news?  What is my approach from here?

Redx

boy_george said:

Thanks for your help - I think that the grace period sounds the way go - do you you have an idea of how I may find out what this particular site agreement is in relation to grace periods please?

If it gets to civil court , the landowner authority or contract may have a clause about grace periods

Until then you won't see it because they won't show it beforehand

I already told you how to check the BPA CoP and which clause

boy_george

Redx said:

boy_george said:

Thanks for your help - I think that the grace period sounds the way go - do you you have an idea of how I may find out what this particular site agreement is in relation to grace periods please?

If it gets to civil court , the landowner authority or contract may have a clause about grace periods

Until then you won't see it because they won't show it beforehand

I already told you how to check the BPA CoP and which clause

Yes I have read that and it isnt specific to this site?