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Smart Parking and Pedestrian Zone on private land

Hypothetically, can Smart Parking issue a parking charge notice for entering a pedestrian zone on private land during prohibited times? Zone is a changeable one with times on.

Say someone entered said zone but there was only one sign at entry on the opposite side of the road which had small print but not full terms and conditions (referred to a larger sign within the pedestrian zone) also the penalty charge amount on the sign was too small to see from the entry point and the contact details for the APNR data controller was referenced to the larger T&Cs sign within the restricted zone, would they have grounds and a chance of a successful appeal?

I can't find any reference to Pedestrian Zones run privately. One last potential issue; the sign on the opposite side of the entry point was actually set back about 20 cms from the entry point. There looks like there used to be a sign on the drivers side but there is only a filled in round hole there now so possibly been knocked over, and removed.

Any thoughts wold be most appreciated.
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,513 Forumite
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    Hypothetically, can Smart Parking issue a parking charge notice for entering a pedestrian zone on private land during prohibited times? Zone is a changeable one with times on.
    Wow, no, never heard of this, show us the PCN!

    I can't find any reference to Pedestrian Zones run privately.
    That's because there is no such thing, someone has invented it in order to issue PCNs - but this isn't a parking event! 

    Please show us the NTK and location, I want to see this place on Google StreetView.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Only 'allegedly' happened yesterday.
    The RK is waiting for a PCN to drop. 
    It's a new shopping area development so Google Street View is a building site. 
  • I've got access to photos of the sign.

    It's been a bit of a local debate as they started with just weighted plastic signs. 
  • Def ANPR and £100 fine on the sign. 
  • Will do it now
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  • Umkomaas
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    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Umkomaas
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    Jeez, they'll be enforcing private land speed limits shortly. Expect them to be set at 5mph so that every beggar fails!  £100 a time - kerching!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • BrownTrout
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    I wonder how well that would stand up ...
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