Sink smell and breeze coming from sink after plumber fitted a new sink

neilmcl

So what excuse did the plumber have or did you fix it yourself?

NibblyPig

neilmcl said:

So what excuse did the plumber have or did you fix it yourself?

Haha, he fixed it but he was not a happy bunny, I think he was probably a bit annoyed at himself.

NibblyPig

KeithSussex said:

Would consider replacing the nozzle currently attached to the DW hose with a mcalpine WMF4  (room permitting).  This gets the nozzle vertical, then arrange the DW hose to run as high as possible then into the new nozzle.

Plumbing is similar to Lego, always alternative options   

Would such a thing literally screw on the end (i.e. can noddy me do it)? 

Is that just so water doesn't run back down the hose?

Jeepers_Creepers

Yeah, Noddy could do it. But Nibbly, tho'?

Make and model of DW? That hose is actually already quite high up, so chances are it's fine as it is. Yes, it's to prevent the DW from draining itself - if you imagine a bucket with a hose coming out its bottom, if you lower that hose to below water level, it'll start to pour out. If you raise it, it won't. Your DW only wants to empty itself when it's pumped out.

Good chance, if you look at your instructions again, it'll give a range of height that the hose needs to be raised to. Compare that with what you currently have.

Good chance it's fine.

Oops - I'm wrong. And - darn - you are right :-(  Yes, if you look at the respective heights of the DW connection and the 'high' point of the U-bend that the sink water needs to climb over, they are very close. So, yes, a draining sink will likely find some of its water back-tracking down that DW hose - yuck.

Your plumber is a prize twit and is not to be used again.

To replace that hose attachment, just unscrew (hopefully by hand) the white collar that surrounds it. It'll come off, and the nozzle can be pushed through the collar and removed. You then need an angled type. Would you be able to pass that hose over the unit back panel there?

https://www.screwfix.com/p/floplast-hose-connector/48625

chrisw

I wouldn't bother replacing the attachment. It looks like you have quite a bit spare hose so either loop it up before it goes through the cupboard or pull some through and loop it up under the sink. There is usually a bracket to hold it up, but you can hang it from anything such as a hook, screw or tied up to something with a piece of string. Or disconnect it and reroute it higher up between the cupboards.

Don't forget to untie it and feed it back through again if you're ever pulling the washer out.

NibblyPig

Jeepers_Creepers said:

Yeah, Noddy could do it. But Nibbly, tho'?  

The answer is... apparently not So I bought that part, but I am not sure how you push the hose onto it.

I think that's the right way to screw it on. It seems to go on. There was a plastic ring which you can just barely see inside the screw part which fell out but I think that's supposed to go in there. Maybe.

Then the actual hose, well, it's easy to put it onto the first part, but then the thicker part, I wasn't sure if it should go on there too. I pushed it onto that part but all the horses and all the kings men couldn't get it to go all the way up to where my thumb is. Unless I just need to keep trying.

There is a plastic bit inside the hose that the smaller diameter plastic bit fits into.

I did the best I could but when I screwed it on some residual water leaked out between the hose and the plastic... so maybe not such a great seal.... so maybe I need Hercules to come and push it all the way on (?)

I also read about some kind of plastic bit that you're supposed to remove but I wasn't sure what that was. I couldn't SEE any plastic bits. 

Can anyone suggest what I might do...

NibblyPig

I thought I replied but my post disappeared


I put it on, as far as it would go which is basically just over the lip of the thicker part. I nipped out and grabbed a jubilee clip, and I whacked it on. I screwed it in place, and after some faffing, the above was the result. Will it flood my kitchen when I turn it on, that is the question...

greyteam1959

Nice to see you used a jubilee clip.
No it will NOT flood your kitchen.
P.S.

You made a better job of that than your plumber did of the pipework.

NibblyPig

My dishwasher says:

FAULT: Cannot drain the dishwasher.

Someone shoot me, but first, HELP!

Jeepers_Creepers

Lol! Wait until you take down a wall partition!

What you've done so far is great

You said that inside the hose end is a narrower section? Do you think this is what's stopping the hose being pushed up on to the wider serrated part of the new fitting? If so, a solution is to trim off part of the narrower fitting spigot. But don't do that yet...

You also said "I also read about some kind of plastic bit that you're supposed to remove but I wasn't sure what that was. I couldn't SEE any plastic bits". Do you mean with the new angled fitting you bought? In which case, are you sure there isn't a cap fitted inside the spigot blocking it off? Can you look right through that fitting?

Why isn't the DW draining? I guess it's either because you've accidentally introduced a kink in that hose, or it's not going too high over the unit back (unlikely) or because there is a blanking cap in that new fitting you haven't removed. So, process of elimination tomorrow!

These hose ends are a bit 'squishy' and are designed to have some 'give'. You do use a 'screwing' motion to get them on, but they are not actually 'screwed' - ie the spigot has round ridges but not a screw thread. You really want a snug fit - it should require a firm shove to get it on. I suspect - since it went on the first narrow part quite easily - this is just a bit too loose, so you either fit a Jubilee clip (like you have) or else you trim off that narrow part to get the hose directly on to the next wider section. A few drops of washing-up liquid acts as a decent lube for such jobs.