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Help with cat in leasehold flat - Director with passive/aggressive behaviour

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  • Tokmon said:

    I also agree you should have read the paperwork before signing, but you have acknowledged that and there's nothing you can do about that now.


    Well they have two options: 1. Get rid of the Cat 2. Move house I would say option 2 is the best option here because they obviously don't want to get rid of the cat and they don't like the terms of the lease or the people who manage it.
    @tokmon
    I never said we don't like the terms of the lease or the people who manage it.
    Do you have a reply instead for what I did say:
    I made a mistake not reading the lease fully; I wrote back apologising, admitting and asking for permission.
    Initially when I wrote my post here, I just wanted advice on how to keep our indoor cat when several others without permits keep dogs that have to inevitably take our for a walk 2 or 3 times a day.
    It's the same Directors and Managing company for the whole Estate. 
    That's what I don't like.
  • youth_leader
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    @Luisaandhercat, I'm sorry you are in this situation.  I'm a cat and dog owner, and was put off a leasehold flat by a post on this forum.   Tenants had complained about a resident putting cat litter in the communal bins.  Make sure it's heavily bagged up.
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  • teachfast
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    @Luisaandhercat, I'm sorry you are in this situation.  I'm a cat and dog owner, and was put off a leasehold flat by a post on this forum.   Tenants had complained about a resident putting cat litter in the communal bins.  Make sure it's heavily bagged up.
    Did it interfere with their litter sniffing activities?
  • youth_leader
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    ha ha - it shocked me, I hadn't realised about communal bins and people having the time to inspect the contents.
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  • poli123
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    edited 7 March 2021 at 1:56PM
    hi 
    I am a director of a block and someone asked if they could have a cat and as correctly stated it’s a violation of the lease so we said no ,  if we said yes then it opens the floodgates for all animals which isn’t what we want . 
    Having said that we approved a tenant with a cat as he has a medical exemption and you should show empathy if there is a genuine reason 
  • teachfast said:
    @Luisaandhercat, I'm sorry you are in this situation.  I'm a cat and dog owner, and was put off a leasehold flat by a post on this forum.   Tenants had complained about a resident putting cat litter in the communal bins.  Make sure it's heavily bagged up.
    Did it interfere with their litter sniffing activities?
    @teachfast That was gold. lolololol

  • annetheman
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    poli123 said:
    hi 
    I am a director of a block and someone asked if they could have a cat and as correctly stated it’s a violation of the lease so we said no ,  if we said yes then it opens the floodgates for all animals which isn’t what we want . 
    Having said that we approved a tenant with a cat as he has a medical exemption and you should show empathy if there is a genuine reason 
    Interesting - please explain the logic behind this? If you make decisions on a case-by-case basis, that means allowing 1 domestic cat request does not "open the floodgates for all animals" - rather, it allows 1 domestic cat to stay in the property. If the next request received is for a dog/rabbit/pig/tiger, you consider that request independently; no need to say yes to that request because you said yes to the previous one. Surely the discretion you have as a management co allows you to be discretionary without relying on precedent?

    Even one domestic cat request vs another may not have the same outcome - let's say that 1 cat is indoor-only, vaccinated, microchipped and neutered/spayed - all detailed in a full, vaildated vet history - vs a rescue cat of unknown origin - it would make sense to consider one less likely to be a nuisance than the other, so you might say yes to one and not the other??
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  • ha ha - it shocked me, I hadn't realised about communal bins and people having the time to inspect the contents.
    Rule 1 for living in flats: There is always a self-appointed bin warden ready to jump out at any moment and shout at you for some imaginary infraction.
  • Tokmon
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    Tokmon said:

    I also agree you should have read the paperwork before signing, but you have acknowledged that and there's nothing you can do about that now.


    Well they have two options: 1. Get rid of the Cat 2. Move house I would say option 2 is the best option here because they obviously don't want to get rid of the cat and they don't like the terms of the lease or the people who manage it.
    @tokmon
    I never said we don't like the terms of the lease or the people who manage it.
    Do you have a reply instead for what I did say:
    I made a mistake not reading the lease fully; I wrote back apologising, admitting and asking for permission.
    Initially when I wrote my post here, I just wanted advice on how to keep our indoor cat when several others without permits keep dogs that have to inevitably take our for a walk 2 or 3 times a day.
    It's the same Directors and Managing company for the whole Estate. 
    That's what I don't like.

    So you like the term of the lease that means you aren't allowed pets without permission and you like the person who you said this about: "I do feel she exhibits passive-agressive and bully behaviour".

    If i had pets i wouldn't like the terms of the lease and i certainly don't like people who exhibit bullying behavior so it seems strange to me that you don't dislike both!.

    From what i have read on here the other people who have dogs are from different building or houses? So i don't see the problem with that myself because everyone's lease can be different and houses certainly aren't likely to have a no pets policy. So if your comparing to people who live in houses on the same estate that's an entirely different situation because they don't have shared communal areas.
  • martindow
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    poli123 said:
    hi 
    I am a director of a block and someone asked if they could have a cat and as correctly stated it’s a violation of the lease so we said no ,  if we said yes then it opens the floodgates for all animals which isn’t what we want . 
    Having said that we approved a tenant with a cat as he has a medical exemption and you should show empathy if there is a genuine reason 
    Can you explain this - what sort of medical exemption did you accept regarding a cat?  Presumably the OP could use this argument in their case if it seems persuasive to management committees.

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