Received Paring tickets in the School Car Park at the School I work for

Umkomaas

I have read up and understand that PCN are not fines and how to properly appeal through POPLA etc.

I'm not clear whether you are thinking about appeals to POPLA, but be aware that your PCNs are too far in the past to do so. Just so you're not unnecessarily diverted. 

gmcg4210

Umkomaas said:

I have read up and understand that PCN are not fines and how to properly appeal through POPLA etc.

I'm not clear whether you are thinking about appeals to POPLA, but be aware that your PCNs are too far in the past to do so. Just so you're not unnecessarily diverted. 

As the PCN were sent to the wrong address I left Smart Parking know and they reissued them to my current address, thereby giving me the original 30 days to appeal. 

gmcg4210

Half_way said:

As mentioned erlier, its realy  important that you do not call these fines, especialy when dealing with a third party - did you mentioned them as fines to the school or union or anyone else??? if so then it can make things harder to resolve

What you are looking for is who employed the parking company?  

Yes that is the place. Unfortunately, yes I did mention them as fines to the school. How would I go about finding who employed the company?

fisherjim

Well that signage doesn't conform to the BPA COP it talks about "regulations" that is a misrepresentation of authority report that to the BPA for a start.

Umkomaas

gmcg4210 said:

Umkomaas said:

I have read up and understand that PCN are not fines and how to properly appeal through POPLA etc.

I'm not clear whether you are thinking about appeals to POPLA, but be aware that your PCNs are too far in the past to do so. Just so you're not unnecessarily diverted. 

As the PCN were sent to the wrong address I left Smart Parking know and they reissued them to my current address, thereby giving me the original 30 days to appeal. 

Have you appealed each one (separately) to Smart using the blue text initial appeal template from the newbies FAQ sticky?  You would only get 28 days to get that to Smart. If they then reject your appeals you should receive separate POPLA codes for each PCN, which also have a 28-day deadline for the second stage appeal, (but you can squeeze 3 or 4 more days if essential). 

As Smart do not meet PoFA requirements in their NtKs, this should be an easy win at POPLA, provided the driver isn't identified. You might even succeed at the initial appeal stage by just adding a final sentence 'As your Notice to Keeper does not meet the requirements of the Protection of Freedoms Act (Schedule 4), as the registered keeper of the vehicle AB123CDE, I have no liability for your charge'. That's it. 

One appeal per each PCN.

Coupon-mad

gmcg4210 said:

Umkomaas said:

I have read up and understand that PCN are not fines and how to properly appeal through POPLA etc.

I'm not clear whether you are thinking about appeals to POPLA, but be aware that your PCNs are too far in the past to do so. Just so you're not unnecessarily diverted. 

As the PCN were sent to the wrong address I left Smart Parking know and they reissued them to my current address, thereby giving me the original 30 days to appeal. 

Jolly good, because Smart Parking can't hold registered keepers liable in law (because they choose not to use that law, the POFA 2012 Sch4).

We sincerely hope you have NOT yet done appeals that blab about who was driving?!!  Please tell us you haven't thrown away your 100% win?

brianposter

If the school wont do anything, I would try the council or a councillor.

And if you are a member of a union ask their lawyer about the councils responsibilities as an employer.

gmcg4210

Don't worry I haven't said my name in anything so I am in the clear. I am going to appeal with the template on the Newbie FAQ section. Should I be attaching the schools visitor policy here, and say how they broke this? Or should I just wait till the POPLA stage for this? (if it gets that far). Again no help from HR at the school after multiple emails, how would I get in contact with my union/ find out which union to contact?

Thanks again everyone for the help. Life lessons have been learnt!

Umkomaas

Nothing you send a PPC has any bearing on an appeal, they are all routinely rejected. Save your powder for POPLA, but your school's visitor policy will carry no weight with POPLA either. 

Le_Kirk

gmcg4210 said:

how would I get in contact with my union/ find out which union to contact?

Are you a member of a union?  If so, you must have joined, must pay your union dues somewhere.