TR1 transfer deed.

davidmcn

Slips36 said:

Seashell517 said:

Slips36 said:

There seems to be lack of communication or grudge between the solicitors. My solicitor wasted several weeks enquiring about historical conveyance of 1913. The sellers solicitors had to order copy from the land registry. There was no problem with the conveyance and wasted 3 weeks. Simple logic will point to house sold numerous times and surely the solicitors involved will have questioned the historical conveyance.
my initial gut feeling was to get shot of them but I already paid for the searches and their initial deposit.
This solicitor and his assistant has been complete nightmare.

It turned out to be fine, so you're calling it a waste of time. If they had found a problem, would you be saying the same? Do you know that the conveyancers on the previous transactions were thorough? If something was found to be wrong later, would you accept 'well it was sold plenty of times before so I didn't check' from your conveyancer?

Well it’s 110 year old house and probably gone through several conveyance. I’m fairly sure at least one of the conveyancer would have found the non existent problem.

While it's true there's a certain amount of reassurance in dealing with a "tried and tested" title (I wouldn't expect to find, say, a fundamental problem in the prior titles for a well-established housing estate), are you saying you'd have been happy to instruct your solicitor not to bother looking at the prior titles? Even if you were, your lender wouldn't.

Slips36

davidmcn said:

Slips36 said:

Seashell517 said:

Slips36 said:

There seems to be lack of communication or grudge between the solicitors. My solicitor wasted several weeks enquiring about historical conveyance of 1913. The sellers solicitors had to order copy from the land registry. There was no problem with the conveyance and wasted 3 weeks. Simple logic will point to house sold numerous times and surely the solicitors involved will have questioned the historical conveyance.
my initial gut feeling was to get shot of them but I already paid for the searches and their initial deposit.
This solicitor and his assistant has been complete nightmare.

It turned out to be fine, so you're calling it a waste of time. If they had found a problem, would you be saying the same? Do you know that the conveyancers on the previous transactions were thorough? If something was found to be wrong later, would you accept 'well it was sold plenty of times before so I didn't check' from your conveyancer?

Well it’s 110 year old house and probably gone through several conveyance. I’m fairly sure at least one of the conveyancer would have found the non existent problem.

While it's true there's a certain amount of reassurance in dealing with a "tried and tested" title (I wouldn't expect to find, say, a fundamental problem in the prior titles for a well-established housing estate), are you saying you'd have been happy to instruct your solicitor not to bother looking at the prior titles? Even if you were, your lender wouldn't.

Thanks for your reply.
Everything seems to have gone wrong with this conveyance on the sale and purchase.
The property title was good but under the notice was historical conveyance of 1913. My solicitor enquired about that and the sellers solicitor had to get hard copy from land registry which took several weeks and emailed back to my solicitor who took another week before concluding it was all good. He emailed earlier on that once enquires are satisfactory he will email full report with the purchase contract and Tr1 form. Now he is waiting for the draft transfer form to be approved before he will email the full report. The sellers solicitor is puzzled by this approval request and hasn’t emailed the approval since last Friday.
surely my solicitor can sent him the transfer form and not seek his approval.
Why is he withholding the full report? 

greatcrested

Slips36 said:

davidmcn said:

Slips36 said:

Seashell517 said:

Slips36 said:

There seems to be lack of communication or grudge between the solicitors. My solicitor wasted several weeks enquiring about historical conveyance of 1913. The sellers solicitors had to order copy from the land registry. There was no problem with the conveyance and wasted 3 weeks. Simple logic will point to house sold numerous times and surely the solicitors involved will have questioned the historical conveyance.
my initial gut feeling was to get shot of them but I already paid for the searches and their initial deposit.
This solicitor and his assistant has been complete nightmare.

It turned out to be fine, so you're calling it a waste of time. If they had found a problem, would you be saying the same? Do you know that the conveyancers on the previous transactions were thorough? If something was found to be wrong later, would you accept 'well it was sold plenty of times before so I didn't check' from your conveyancer?

Well it’s 110 year old house and probably gone through several conveyance. I’m fairly sure at least one of the conveyancer would have found the non existent problem.

While it's true there's a certain amount of reassurance in dealing with a "tried and tested" title (I wouldn't expect to find, say, a fundamental problem in the prior titles for a well-established housing estate), are you saying you'd have been happy to instruct your solicitor not to bother looking at the prior titles? Even if you were, your lender wouldn't.

The property title was good but under the notice was historical conveyance of 1913. My solicitor enquired about that and the sellers solicitor had to get hard copy from land registry which took several weeks and emailed back to my solicitor who took another week before concluding it was all good.

This suggests you have a professional conveyancer doing a thorough job.

He emailed earlier on that once enquires are satisfactory he will email full report with the purchase contract and Tr1 form. Now he is waiting for the draft transfer form to be approved before he will email the full report.

Standard practice. Very unusual for conveyancers to'drip feed' paperwork to their client. Far better for both for the complete package to be sent along with explanations of anything that requires is, and an appropriate recommendation based on the full picture.

The sellers solicitor is puzzled by this approval request

Not sure how you know- you're not his client so this must have come o you 3rd hand

and hasn’t emailed the approval since last Friday.
surely my solicitor can sent him the transfer form and not seek his approval.

standard practice for contract, TR1 etc to be approved/agreed by both sides.

Why is he withholding the full report? 

He cannot provide a full report till all the information and documentation is complete. If he did, it would not be a 'full report'.

Providing a partial report is unlikely to speed things up - he'd still need to wait for outstanding issues to be resolved. And drafting his advice and recommendations based on incomplete information would be unprofessional and pointless.

Slips36

Thanks. I have finally received full report and contract and transfer form to sign. Unfortunately on the sale side still waiting for amendment of transfer form from the buyer solicitor. My solicitor assistant did email the transfer form but with letter missing on my surname and short form names where you sign. The solicitor assistant has requested amendment for transfer form but the buyers solicitor usually takes a week to reply.
Shall I sent the transfer form on the sale with error and my purchase contract and Tr1 form, mortgage deed to avoid any delays? The solicitor assistant is going on leave from 1st March to 6th March.

Tiglet2

Slips36 said:

Thanks. I have finally received full report and contract and transfer form to sign. Unfortunately on the sale side still waiting for amendment of transfer form from the buyer solicitor. My solicitor assistant did email the transfer form but with letter missing on my surname and short form names where you sign. The solicitor assistant has requested amendment for transfer form but the buyers solicitor usually takes a week to reply.
Shall I sent the transfer form on the sale with error and my purchase contract and Tr1 form, mortgage deed to avoid any delays? The solicitor assistant is going on leave from 1st March to 6th March.

See my response to you on your previous thread 
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6242255/tr1-transfer-form#latest