Gas safety check/certificate?

proformance

I have no reason to suspect its defective - it was just raised in my contract discussions by my solicitor - so when I got a call from the EA explaining that the vendor would not be providing this, I thought it might be something I should do.

But a broken boiler wouldn't put us off the purchase overall, so given it has no legal grounding and no real tangible impact on whether or not we'd want to complete, I don't see this as urgent and will forgo such a check..

Unless someone tells me I'm crazy...

Irishpearce26

proformance said:

I have no reason to suspect its defective - it was just raised in my contract discussions by my solicitor - so when I got a call from the EA explaining that the vendor would not be providing this, I thought it might be something I should do.

But a broken boiler wouldn't put us off the purchase overall, so given it has no legal grounding and no real tangible impact on whether or not we'd want to complete, I don't see this as urgent and will forgo such a check..

Unless someone tells me I'm crazy...

Did the vendors say why they dont have the certificate or have they just lost it. Not crazy but what if its deemed a new boiler is needed and the pipes need to be changed as they wont accommodate the gas flow new boilers need. Could cost between £3-5K. Would you try and re-negotiate with the vendor and if so do you think they would be open to discussion?

davidmcn

Irishpearce26 said:

proformance said:

I have no reason to suspect its defective - it was just raised in my contract discussions by my solicitor - so when I got a call from the EA explaining that the vendor would not be providing this, I thought it might be something I should do.

But a broken boiler wouldn't put us off the purchase overall, so given it has no legal grounding and no real tangible impact on whether or not we'd want to complete, I don't see this as urgent and will forgo such a check..

Unless someone tells me I'm crazy...

Did the vendors say why they dont have the certificate or have they just lost it.

As mentioned above, there's no need for there even to be a certificate.

Irishpearce26

Regardless of whether they are a tenant or homeowner they will have been given a commissioning certificate that shows it was installed by an accredited gas engineer. Then they would have maintenance certificates for when they have had the appliances maintained all of which can void insurance claims if they are not carried out.

proformance

Irishpearce26 said:

proformance said:

I have no reason to suspect its defective - it was just raised in my contract discussions by my solicitor - so when I got a call from the EA explaining that the vendor would not be providing this, I thought it might be something I should do.

But a broken boiler wouldn't put us off the purchase overall, so given it has no legal grounding and no real tangible impact on whether or not we'd want to complete, I don't see this as urgent and will forgo such a check..

Unless someone tells me I'm crazy...

Did the vendors say why they dont have the certificate or have they just lost it. Not crazy but what if its deemed a new boiler is needed and the pipes need to be changed as they wont accommodate the gas flow new boilers need. Could cost between £3-5K. Would you try and re-negotiate with the vendor and if so do you think they would be open to discussion?

They have said, "they have not obtained boiler certificates because certificates are only legally required for landlords letting their properties out". (Paraphrased) 

davidmcn said:

Irishpearce26 said:

proformance said:

I have no reason to suspect its defective - it was just raised in my contract discussions by my solicitor - so when I got a call from the EA explaining that the vendor would not be providing this, I thought it might be something I should do.

But a broken boiler wouldn't put us off the purchase overall, so given it has no legal grounding and no real tangible impact on whether or not we'd want to complete, I don't see this as urgent and will forgo such a check..

Unless someone tells me I'm crazy...

Did the vendors say why they dont have the certificate or have they just lost it.

As mentioned above, there's no need for there even to be a certificate.

Good that you confirmed it again

davidmcn

Irishpearce26 said:

Regardless of whether they are a tenant or homeowner they will have been given a commissioning certificate that shows it was installed by an accredited gas engineer.

If they installed it, yes. The OP doesn't say that they did.

Then they would have maintenance certificates for when they have had the appliances maintained

If they've had any relevant maintenance carried out, yes.

all of which can void insurance claims if they are not carried out.

Where are you getting this from? What sort of insurance?

proformance

Irishpearce26 said:

Regardless of whether they are a tenant or homeowner they will have been given a commissioning certificate that shows it was installed by an accredited gas engineer. Then they would have maintenance certificates for when they have had the appliances maintained all of which can void insurance claims if they are not carried out.

Interesting point.
So do you think I should just ask them for any of the most recent maintenance/inspections docs?

Irishpearce26

davidmcn said:

Irishpearce26 said:

Regardless of whether they are a tenant or homeowner they will have been given a commissioning certificate that shows it was installed by an accredited gas engineer.

If they installed it, yes. The OP doesn't say that they did.

Then they would have maintenance certificates for when they have had the appliances maintained

If they've had any relevant maintenance carried out, yes.

all of which can void insurance claims if they are not carried out.

Where are you getting this from? What sort of insurance?

Doesn't matter if they installed it or not if there was one it would pass between homeowner, if there was one.

I would be concerned if there was no maintenance carried out especially on my boiler and dependent on age.

Many home insurance providers wont pay out a claim if the appliance that caused damage was not installed by a certified engineer or maintained but you could determine that in your T&Cs of your policy. This is also the cause for any active warranties the appliances may have.

Im sure it will all be fine but I would want to have the peace of mind and ensure that the appliances are reflective of the price of the house. The house we are buying has original boiler (22 years old) has been maintained regularly but I asked for a £3k reduction as its passed the estimated lifespan of 15 years my vendors agreed without hesitation.

davidmcn

Irishpearce26 said:

davidmcn said:

Irishpearce26 said:

Regardless of whether they are a tenant or homeowner they will have been given a commissioning certificate that shows it was installed by an accredited gas engineer.

If they installed it, yes. The OP doesn't say that they did.

Then they would have maintenance certificates for when they have had the appliances maintained

If they've had any relevant maintenance carried out, yes.

all of which can void insurance claims if they are not carried out.

Where are you getting this from? What sort of insurance?

Many home insurance providers wont pay out a claim if the appliance that caused damage was not installed by a certified engineer or maintained but you could determine that in your T&Cs of your policy.

Can you give us an example of any insurer which has such a condition? I've never seen it on a proposal form or mentioned as a reason for rejecting a claim.

proformance

we don;t have insurance anyway. What insurance would this be? Boiler insurance?