No will

dresdendave

Horridhenri said:

Yes as he owned a property there is though a disagreement with the house sale so I need to know if they can say we are not paying you your full share?
Ie keeping thousands back

Your auntie's house? Who is the "he" or is it just a typo?
Why are you assuming they won't pay all beneficiaries equally, what evidence do you have to back this up?

naedanger

Horridhenri said:

Yes that is correct 2 brothers are executors I am concerned that they are not being honest as we have had no contact from them except one email to say house is sold which I have since found out it is one of their children. I am concerned that they are not going to share it equally between the 6. What I need to know is can we ask to see all evidence of what/how the estate is worth etc?

Yes, at the end of the process you are entitled to see the estate accounts, which should show the assets and liabilities at the date of death, any expenses of administering the estate, and the amount realised by the sale of the house and any other assets and how much each beneficiary is to receive (i.e. equal shares in your case).

If they seem to be delaying unnecessarily then I am not sure the what the process is then. My guess is it will involve taking the matter to court in some way, so you would probably need to speak to a solicitor (at your cost). (However be aware administering an estate can be a slow process.) 

If the executors sold the property to a close relative, especially if it was not sold on the open market, then I would certainly be checking that it was not in any way under-valued.

dresdendave

As the OP is not a beneficiary, do they have the right to see estate accounts? Also for the same reason, why should they expect the executors be keeping in touch with them?

I agree that the house sale should be checked that it was at market value, although possibly a small reduction could be allowed for quick sale, no EA fees.

Sea_Shell

dresdendave said:

As the OP is not a beneficiary, do they have the right to see estate accounts? Also for the same reason, why should they expect the executors be keeping in touch with them?

I agree that the house sale should be checked that it was at market value, although possibly a small reduction could be allowed for quick sale, no EA fees.

I suspect they are asking for their parent, who IS one of the beneficiaries.

kazwookie

If there was no WILL, how can the 2 brothers be executors?

Have they put themselves in 'charge'

Marcon

naedanger said:

Horridhenri said:

Yes that is correct 2 brothers are executors I am concerned that they are not being honest as we have had no contact from them except one email to say house is sold which I have since found out it is one of their children. I am concerned that they are not going to share it equally between the 6. What I need to know is can we ask to see all evidence of what/how the estate is worth etc?

If they seem to be delaying unnecessarily then I am not sure the what the process is then.

Inventory and account is the way to go if there are issues. This explains it well - and also cautions against rushing to the conclusion there is something wrong: https://www.wainwrightcummins.co.uk/site/blog/firm-news/inheritance-and-wills-dont-jump-to-conclusions

xylophone

The OP's aunt died intestate.

One of the OP's parents is a surviving sibling of the deceased - there are five others, two of whom ( the deceased's brothers) took on the responsibility of obtaining Letters of Administration and are the Personal Representatives of the deceased.

As such, they have sold the deceased's property ( to the offspring of one of them) and hold the proceeds as PR.

Presumably they will also be in the process of collecting in any other monies due to the estate and paying all taxes/bills/expenses  after which they must share the proceeds equally between themselves and the other four siblings.

The other four (as residuary beneficiaries) have the right to see a full set of the estate accounts.

One hopes the PR can show that the sale of the property was at  fair market value.

dresdendave

xylophone said:

The OP's aunt died intestate.

One of the OP's parents is a surviving sibling of the deceased - there are five others, two of whom ( the deceased's brothers) took on the responsibility of obtaining Letters of Administration and are the Personal Representatives of the deceased.

As such, they have sold the deceased's property ( to the offspring of one of them) and hold the proceeds as PR.

Presumably they will also be in the process of collecting in any other monies due to the estate and paying all taxes/bills/expenses  after which they must share the proceeds equally between themselves and the other four siblings.

The other four (as residuary beneficiaries) have the right to see a full set of the estate accounts.

One hopes the PR can show that the sale of the property was at  fair market value.

Excellent summary of the chain of events as they should occur. 

Still no input from the OP as to why they suspect the above is not going to happen. 

Might be useful if we had some indication of the timescale involved, did the aunt die a few months ago or has this been dragging on for several years?

Horridhenri

Sea_Shell said:

I'd also be querying the amount the house sold for, if it's been sold to family.

Did they pay full market price?

I spoke to a local estate agent and the price is the lower end of their valuation 

Horridhenri

Sea_Shell said:

dresdendave said:

As the OP is not a beneficiary, do they have the right to see estate accounts? Also for the same reason, why should they expect the executors be keeping in touch with them?

I agree that the house sale should be checked that it was at market value, although possibly a small reduction could be allowed for quick sale, no EA fees.

I suspect they are asking for their parent, who IS one of the beneficiaries.

Exactly correct