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  • Jenny.W
    Jenny.W Posts: 164 Forumite
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    The PCN letter was addressed to my husband  as he’s the registered keeper
  • Redx
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    edited 20 January 2021 at 7:28PM
    as above, read the advice first , like a lot of newbies you are trying to rush it without learning the basics first

    a landowner cancellation is you best option, was , is , always will be

    your popla appeal will be based on

    no landowner authority
    poor and indequate signage
    grace periods in the BPA CoP

    it would have had POFA at the top of the list if they didnt or dont cancel it, but you threw that winning point in the bin

    the driver was liable, the keeper was not liable , you dobbed the driver in, so lost that winning point

    if he was the RK, then you have dobbed in yourself as driver (or him as driver depending who appealed it) , you said you received the letter, no you did not, he did

    in future, let the person named on letters deal with those letters


  • Jenny.W
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    edited 20 January 2021 at 7:42PM
    Redx said:
    as above, read the advice first , like a lot of newbies you are trying to rush it without learning the basics first

    a landowner cancellation is you best option, was , is , always will be

    your popla appeal will be based on

    no landowner authority
    poor and indequate signage
    grace periods in the BPA CoP

    it would have had POFA at the top of the list if they didnt or dont cancel it, but you threw that winning point in the bin

    the driver was liable, the keeper was not liable , you dobbed the driver in, so lost that winning point

    if he was the RK, then you have dobbed in yourself as driver (or him as driver depending who appealed it) , you said you received the letter, no you did not, he did

    in future, let the person named on letters deal with those letters


    So your response is saying I have no chance?  How have I dobbed anyone in?  I didn’t say who was driving?  My husband is unable to deal with the query as he’s in the military
  • Redx
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    edited 20 January 2021 at 7:42PM
    I never said anything of the kind

    we have no problem with you appealing on behalf of your husband , just tell us the facts

    did you appeal on his behalf in his name ?

    or did you appeal as the driver in your name ?

    clarity is everything here , and you havent really told us properly
  • Jenny.W
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    edited 20 January 2021 at 7:47PM
    I completed the appeal form in his name as the registered keeper.  Please don’t get annoyed with me, I’m having to deal with so much being on my own
  • Redx
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    edited 20 January 2021 at 8:04PM
    ok , then the problem with that is you have confirmed he was the driver, which he was not, because you said you were

    any rejection will be in his name , not yours , and they will take it that he was driving due to what you have said so far

    therefore the popla appeal will have to be in his name too, using the elements I listed earlier

    this shows the problem of you doing things in his name, had it been a court case you would be really in trouble , so learn from this and be careful what you admit to in either name. sometimes NO COMMENT is best :)

    ps:- there is no guarantee of any win on this , especially not with the current POPLA
  • Jenny.W
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    Ok, I understand.  So now I just have wait to hear back from the appeal then take it from there.  If I need more help do I tag to this post or create a new one?
  • Redx
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    edited 20 January 2021 at 8:30PM
    good , now stick to this thread, dont start a new one unless its about a different pcn at some point in time

    read other popla appeals over the last 18 months where the driver was revealed and look for what I mentioned about landowner authority, poor signage and grace periods , construct one to be submitted in his name choosing other on the POPLA website and as a pdf upload , so you are ready if or when they reject HIS appeal as driver :)

    you will now notice that one of our biggest tasks on here is stopping people blowing their toes off, something your hubby or partner is fully aware of
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 21 January 2021 at 12:50AM
    Jenny.W said:
    The PCN letter was addressed to my husband  as he’s the registered keeper
    And if you appealed in his name as driver, then you threw away his 100% win. 

    So darn frustrating.  Such a flipping easy one for a keeper to win. 

    We are not angry with you but come here FIRST!  

    HIS 100% WIN IS IN THE BIN AND HIS CHANCES ARE NOW NO BETTER THAN ANY OTHER CASE.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of this/any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Jenny.W
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    Jenny.W said:
    The PCN letter was addressed to my husband  as he’s the registered keeper.  

    We are not angry with you but come here FIRST!  


    but I didn’t even know this kind of help was available online .  Oh well, what’s done is done
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