best fibre broadband + router

JJ_Egan

JeffMason said:

JJ_Egan said:

But what is available at the new house 3meg or 300meg .

Apoligies, but I don't know what that means. And how do I find out what is available?

Use the MSE or any broadband checker to see what speed and services are available at the new home .

Very slow BB would put many off moving though most never check before purchase .

Zellah

JeffMason said:

JJ_Egan said:

But what is available at the new house 3meg or 300meg .

Apoligies, but I don't know what that means. And how do I find out what is available?

Enter your details here and post up a screenshot - use the 'Address Checker' option (tab) if your phone number isn't recognized:
www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com

JeffMason

Here you go. Is this good?

iniltous

Yes, that’s almost as good as it gets ( for FTTC )

JeffMason

iniltous said:

Yes, that’s almost as good as it gets ( for FTTC )

But what does it change about what I should get? If anything? I do quite a lot of streaming and downloading of big files, but there will be at most two people using it at once and a two bed terraced Victorian house so not huge.

Zellah

JeffMason said:

iniltous said:

Yes, that’s almost as good as it gets ( for FTTC )

But what does it change about what I should get? If anything? I do quite a lot of streaming and downloading of big files, but there will be at most two people using it at once and a two bed terraced Victorian house so not huge.

It means you're lucky enough to get the top end speeds on FTTC, estimated to be between 75-80 Mbps based on your screenshot. If you're going to be using the connection heavily, you might as well go for the up to 80/20 FTTC service. TalkTalk's Fibre 65 package (FTTC 80/20) is only £24/m on a 18 month contract - this includes their excellent Wifi Hub router free of charge. Bit of a no brainer at that price...

JeffMason

Zellah said:

JeffMason said:

iniltous said:

Yes, that’s almost as good as it gets ( for FTTC )

But what does it change about what I should get? If anything? I do quite a lot of streaming and downloading of big files, but there will be at most two people using it at once and a two bed terraced Victorian house so not huge.

It means you're lucky enough to get the top end speeds on FTTC, estimated to be between 75-80 Mbps based on your screenshot. If you're going to be using the connection heavily, you might as well go for the up to 80/20 FTTC service. TalkTalk's Fibre 65 package (FTTC 80/20) is only £24/m on a 18 month contract - this includes their excellent Wifi Hub router free of charge. Bit of a no brainer at that price...

Ok. Thanks.

I was looking at that TalkTalk package, but according to someone on their chat, it doesn't come with the Wifi Hub router, but instead the Wifi Hub Black - which looks very similar on the outside but isn't half as good a machine on the inside.

I'll see if I can persude them to give me the better router...
EDIT - I just tried them again and they can't/won't budge on the router. It's not worth it with the lower end one, and very sneaky that they brought this not great one out that looks almost identical to the good one.  

Zellah

JeffMason said:

Zellah said:

JeffMason said:

iniltous said:

Yes, that’s almost as good as it gets ( for FTTC )

But what does it change about what I should get? If anything? I do quite a lot of streaming and downloading of big files, but there will be at most two people using it at once and a two bed terraced Victorian house so not huge.

It means you're lucky enough to get the top end speeds on FTTC, estimated to be between 75-80 Mbps based on your screenshot. If you're going to be using the connection heavily, you might as well go for the up to 80/20 FTTC service. TalkTalk's Fibre 65 package (FTTC 80/20) is only £24/m on a 18 month contract - this includes their excellent Wifi Hub router free of charge. Bit of a no brainer at that price...

Ok. Thanks.

I was looking at that TalkTalk package, but according to someone on their chat, it doesn't come with the Wifi Hub router, but instead the Wifi Hub Black - which looks very similar on the outside but isn't half as good a machine on the inside.

I'll see if I can persude them to give me the better router...
EDIT - I just tried them again and they can't/won't budge on the router. It's not worth it with the lower end one, and very sneaky that they brought this not great one out that looks almost identical to the good one.  

Based on the specs, the TT 'wifi hub' and 'wifi hub black' look to be exactly the same, the only difference seems to be the colour of the casing:
https://accessories.talktalk.co.uk/productdescription/39
https://accessories.talktalk.co.uk/productdescription/41
I suspect the 'wifi hub black' is just a newer version of the 'wifi hub'. But if you weren't happy with your wifi hub black then you could ask the very helpful TT online OCEs (forum support staff) to send you the wifi hub which they will do free of charge - they'll most likely arrange a swap.

JeffMason

Zellah said:

JeffMason said:

Zellah said:

JeffMason said:

iniltous said:

Yes, that’s almost as good as it gets ( for FTTC )

But what does it change about what I should get? If anything? I do quite a lot of streaming and downloading of big files, but there will be at most two people using it at once and a two bed terraced Victorian house so not huge.

It means you're lucky enough to get the top end speeds on FTTC, estimated to be between 75-80 Mbps based on your screenshot. If you're going to be using the connection heavily, you might as well go for the up to 80/20 FTTC service. TalkTalk's Fibre 65 package (FTTC 80/20) is only £24/m on a 18 month contract - this includes their excellent Wifi Hub router free of charge. Bit of a no brainer at that price...

Ok. Thanks.

I was looking at that TalkTalk package, but according to someone on their chat, it doesn't come with the Wifi Hub router, but instead the Wifi Hub Black - which looks very similar on the outside but isn't half as good a machine on the inside.

I'll see if I can persude them to give me the better router...
EDIT - I just tried them again and they can't/won't budge on the router. It's not worth it with the lower end one, and very sneaky that they brought this not great one out that looks almost identical to the good one.  

Based on the specs, the TT 'wifi hub' and 'wifi hub black' look to be exactly the same, the only difference seems to be the colour of the casing:
https://accessories.talktalk.co.uk/productdescription/39
https://accessories.talktalk.co.uk/productdescription/41
I suspect the 'wifi hub black' is just a newer version of the 'wifi hub'. But if you weren't happy with your wifi hub black then you could ask the very helpful TT online OCEs (forum support staff) to send you the wifi hub which they will do free of charge - they'll most likely arrange a swap.

I agree it looks like that from their specs. But I wondered why they would bother offering two very similar routers and looked into it further, finding that they are very different inside...

This reviewer goes into it in detail about the newer Wifi Hub Black:
https://rhyslolly.com/2020/12/12/talktalk-wifi-hub-black-huawei-dg8041w-review-test-and-tear-down/

And concludes:
"While the router looks promising with its good feature set in the web interface, and good wireless hardware. However It very much lacks when its comes to its main task of being a router, and takes me back to the mediocre super router days when all three were rubbish, then again 2/3 of those were made by Huawei so what do you expect. Throughput speed is very slow, after a few days, on any type of connection, and I wouldn’t even bother on the built in VDSL modem. These will soon cause users annoyance, as its not stable or ready for real use yet (not sure how these issues didn’t get picked up in testing trails). Hopefully a future firmware release might fix these issues (I was using V1.05t for this review) but I guess time will tell.

Based on this I would personally give this router a miss and pick the Sagemcom variant of the TalkTalk WiFi Hub if you can obtain one, due to the Sagemcom variant being a more solid and much more reliable router. I wouldn’t even take this router as a replacement for an old super router."

His review of the Wifi Hub is much better:
https://rhyslolly.com/2020/12/10/talktalk-wifi-hub-sagemcom-fst-5364-review-test-and-tear-down/

Zellah

Ah didn't know one was made by Huawei and the other by Sagemcom - in which case performance will differ between the 2. Only thing I can suggest is once you receive the black model and you're not happy with it, ask TT support (via forums ideally) to swap it for the older 'wifi hub'.