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  • niktheguru
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    Agree with all the above points. You really need to do a test with EVERYTHING off, even if it is for a couple of hours.
    Also, would you be able to provide a list of every electrical appliance that is attached to a socket, also are you using traditional halogen lights or LED lights, are they on for most of the day in all rooms? what electrical items do you generally leave on over the whole day and night? Also like others have said (and me previously) a picture of your consumer unit and of your hot water tank (with surrounding switches) would be useful.
  • Robin9
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    Identifying those appliances with a plug on  the end should be straightforward ; those with a fused spur on them not always so. In my house item like the fridge , dishwasher  - tucked away in cupboards. 

    Have you an electric shower with a pull cord ?
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  • Hasbeen
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    edited 3 January 2021 at 4:04PM
    Gerry1 said:
    The photographs indicate that the meter's lower panel is missing its crimped security tag, and the panel seems to have flipped through 180 degrees.
    Since the OP moved in? Removed and replaced from the move in pics.

    Have seen reason for that, but does not help the OPs high consumption, now?
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  • MACKEM99
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    Try your loft to see if there are any "plants" growing in there?
  • Hasbeen
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    edited 3 January 2021 at 4:28PM
    Can you please show us a piccy of all the other gubbins in your meter cupboard.- what are the red and black cables connected to and what at the other end of the grey & blue.

    As Robin says, the cot wouldn't be using 3kwh in one hour - the baby would end up well done. Even a full sized electric blanket is only around 60 watts which would take 50hours to use 3kwh
    Would think that the old undersized red / black tails are going to the consumer unit. And the more modern ones are going back to service point or isolation switch?
    Tails in to meter and same out.
    But agree another pic would be helpful, even of consumer unit / labeling etc
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  • theoretica
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    Update;
    After turning off “everything” as advised, the picture above were taken today (Saturday). Below are the difference in usage compared to Thursday night

    Please note: only light bulbs, fridge freezer, kettle, Tv are used during this period. 
    Those are part of 'everything'.  I still think you need to do a shorter test with everything off, no exceptions, and confirm you can get the meter to totally stop moving.
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  • Hasbeen
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    OP as above turn off with big red switch on front of consumer unit and on any other smaller units etc for a few hours and see if meter readings change?

    You could even do it late at night  and check early in morning, fridge freezers will cope.
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  • Talldave said:
    jack_pott said:
    Talldave said:
    How are you going to measure frugality without somehow incorporating the size of the property? 
    As a crude measure, perhaps cross reference the Council Tax bracketing, which would also indicate single occupants.  Progressive pricing sounds like a good and reasonable measure.  We're going to need some large sticks and tasty carrots to carry on with electric-only new homes and rising EV adoption.
    For a simple tariff with only a small amount of progression there's no need for anything other than a two tier charge per kWh, but if we're going for something more, you would have to take account of whether people are heating by gas or electricity in some way. I don't see that house size should be relevant, large households spend more on food, water, clothing, mortgage, council tax etc., why should fuel be any different?
    Because if a house is providing a home for say 6 people, it should be able to use 6x the energy of a single person household before being financially penalised for excessive consumption through its tariff. That all sounds very poll-tax-ish though!!
    A six bed house doesn't cost six times the price to heat, and population imposes a strain on the environment just as does fuel use.
  • jack_pott said:
    Update;
    After turning off “everything” as advised, the picture above were taken today (Saturday). Below are the difference in usage compared to Thursday night 
    Thursday
    Rate 1: 25883.87kwh
    Rate 2: 76714.75kwh
    Saturday: 
    Rate 1: 25896.85kwh
    Rate 2: 76736.16kwh

    Please note: only light bulbs, fridge freezer, kettle, Tv are used during this period. 
    Is this reading normal? Because if it is I may just have found what may have been causing the spike on the meter usage.

    Thank you all for your help and Happy new year to you and yours 

    As I explained before, you need to switch off everything. That's everything as in switching off the mainswitch at the consumer unit, not "everything" as in leaving half the appliances still on. You don't need to leave it off for two days, an hour or so will do, your freezer won't thaw in that time if you just leave the door shut. What you're looking for is to check that the meter stops completely when you're absolutely sure there's no electricity consumption.

    It's not very likely that those appliances you've listed have used that amount of energy, but if you want to check the meter further you need just one appliance connected and it needs to be something that you know the consumption of, such as an electric fire that doesn't have a thermostat or variable output, or a kettle, as long as the rating is marked on it. If you run it for just long enough to get an increment of 0.5 or more on the meter, then come on here and post the meter reading increment, the power rating of the appliance, and the time it was run for, then someone will be able to tell you if it's correct. The words I've emphasised in bold are important, don't ignore them.
    Thanks! I will do just that. 
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