Ebay - buying from Europe now..

bris

martindow said:

emmbrook said:

emmbrook said:

A German seller I’ve bought from before is no longer showing shipping to the UK, I asked if it was possible, he was very apologetic but said not right now as none of his carriers would accept the package until things were clearer. Looks like EU sellers for now could be an issue. That said I do have something coming from Holland from another online marketplace which has been shipped today....

German seller got in touch again today to say he can send to UK again - now at cost of €30 delivery - it was €18 previously..... so that together with 20% VAT adds a fair old chunk. 

Shouldn't he be sending it without charging you German VAT as it's an export?

I may be wrong but it's not German VAT he is charging, its UK VAT that the seller needs to pay to the UK. I think all EU sellers need to register for VAT in the UK if they want to sell to the UK then they collect and pay the VAT to the UK.

soolin

bris said:

martindow said:

emmbrook said:

emmbrook said:

A German seller I’ve bought from before is no longer showing shipping to the UK, I asked if it was possible, he was very apologetic but said not right now as none of his carriers would accept the package until things were clearer. Looks like EU sellers for now could be an issue. That said I do have something coming from Holland from another online marketplace which has been shipped today....

German seller got in touch again today to say he can send to UK again - now at cost of €30 delivery - it was €18 previously..... so that together with 20% VAT adds a fair old chunk. 

Shouldn't he be sending it without charging you German VAT as it's an export?

I may be wrong but it's not German VAT he is charging, its UK VAT that the seller needs to pay to the UK. I think all EU sellers need to register for VAT in the UK if they want to sell to the UK then they collect and pay the VAT to the UK.

This is what my wine company has said is the case. Instead of me paying Portuguese VAT I now have to pay them 20% UK VAT instead which they pay to HMRC. The only thing I am not entirely clear on though is whether I will now have to pay any additional costs including handling charges on arrival in the UK. 

Spoonie_Turtle

soolin said:

bris said:

martindow said:

emmbrook said:

emmbrook said:

A German seller I’ve bought from before is no longer showing shipping to the UK, I asked if it was possible, he was very apologetic but said not right now as none of his carriers would accept the package until things were clearer. Looks like EU sellers for now could be an issue. That said I do have something coming from Holland from another online marketplace which has been shipped today....

German seller got in touch again today to say he can send to UK again - now at cost of €30 delivery - it was €18 previously..... so that together with 20% VAT adds a fair old chunk. 

Shouldn't he be sending it without charging you German VAT as it's an export?

I may be wrong but it's not German VAT he is charging, its UK VAT that the seller needs to pay to the UK. I think all EU sellers need to register for VAT in the UK if they want to sell to the UK then they collect and pay the VAT to the UK.

This is what my wine company has said is the case. Instead of me paying Portuguese VAT I now have to pay them 20% UK VAT instead which they pay to HMRC. The only thing I am not entirely clear on though is whether I will now have to pay any additional costs including handling charges on arrival in the UK. 

If it's under £135 then because the company is registered and has dealt with the VAT and labelled the package accordingly, you shouldn't (unless wine is a special case of which I'm not aware).  Over £135 and it would be liable for customs duty.

soolin

Spoonie_Turtle said:

soolin said:

bris said:

martindow said:

emmbrook said:

emmbrook said:

A German seller I’ve bought from before is no longer showing shipping to the UK, I asked if it was possible, he was very apologetic but said not right now as none of his carriers would accept the package until things were clearer. Looks like EU sellers for now could be an issue. That said I do have something coming from Holland from another online marketplace which has been shipped today....

German seller got in touch again today to say he can send to UK again - now at cost of €30 delivery - it was €18 previously..... so that together with 20% VAT adds a fair old chunk. 

Shouldn't he be sending it without charging you German VAT as it's an export?

I may be wrong but it's not German VAT he is charging, its UK VAT that the seller needs to pay to the UK. I think all EU sellers need to register for VAT in the UK if they want to sell to the UK then they collect and pay the VAT to the UK.

This is what my wine company has said is the case. Instead of me paying Portuguese VAT I now have to pay them 20% UK VAT instead which they pay to HMRC. The only thing I am not entirely clear on though is whether I will now have to pay any additional costs including handling charges on arrival in the UK. 

If it's under £135 then because the company is registered and has dealt with the VAT and labelled the package accordingly, you shouldn't (unless wine is a special case of which I'm not aware).  Over £135 and it would be liable for customs duty.

Thank you, I had hoped that was the case. I probably won't need to reorder for a couple of months anyway, but it is nice to be prepared. 

martindow

bris said:

martindow said:

emmbrook said:

emmbrook said:

A German seller I’ve bought from before is no longer showing shipping to the UK, I asked if it was possible, he was very apologetic but said not right now as none of his carriers would accept the package until things were clearer. Looks like EU sellers for now could be an issue. That said I do have something coming from Holland from another online marketplace which has been shipped today....

German seller got in touch again today to say he can send to UK again - now at cost of €30 delivery - it was €18 previously..... so that together with 20% VAT adds a fair old chunk. 

Shouldn't he be sending it without charging you German VAT as it's an export?

I may be wrong but it's not German VAT he is charging, its UK VAT that the seller needs to pay to the UK. I think all EU sellers need to register for VAT in the UK if they want to sell to the UK then they collect and pay the VAT to the UK.

My point was that for a 100 Euro item, say, up to 2020 a German seller would charge German VAT at 19% making the item 119 Euros.  The shipping charge would also be liable to 19% VAT.

Sending to most countries outside the EU, no German VAT would be charged and on arrival local VAT would be charged along with a clearance fee.

From January 1st, sending to the UK, as has been said, no German VAT should be charged but UK VAT is collected making the total cost 120 Euros.  In theory it should not make much difference to the cost.  In practice carriers are charging much more for European mainland to UK parcels and senders are probably adding a bit to the carriage charge to cover their costs.  Some sellers have chosen not to enter into the hassle of registering for UK VAT and not sending at all.