Neighbour Noise Complaint but no loud noise

Doozergirl

Norman_Castle said:

Doozergirl said:

Norman_Castle said:

dori2o said:

However, now the neighbour has taken to banging on the walls and shouting for my daughter (age 19) to turn her TV down at 8.30pm as they have a 4yr old who cannot sleep.

The TV is not loud.  Mostly she's playing on her Xbox or Nintendo Switch, but watches YouTube vids before going to sleep.

The tv noise every evening is likely the problem, the diy noise just added to the problem. Computer games and youtube can be noisy, Its clearly loud enough for them to hear. Previous neighbour didn't complain possibly because they weren't a four year old trying to sleep in that room at 8.30. Your daughter has the option of showing some maturity and understanding or acting like a teenager and putting herself first.

When you live in a terraced house, noise happens.  If it isn't anti-social behaviour then it's just life and needs to be tolerated.  I'm quite sure that the four year old makes more than enough noise at other times of the day! 

When you live in any attached property you need to be considerate which includes considering if your tv is too loud. Considering any noise you choose to make as "just life" and expecting others to tolerate it is selfish and ignorant.

Its likely the four year old does make noise which the op is entitled to an opinion of whether its its excessive and unnecessary but thats not an excuse for their noise unless they choose a tit for tat response.

I agree the neighbour isn't complaining in the most agreeable way but that doesn't dismiss the noise problem.

People make noise in their own homes.   It isn't ignorant and selfish to do so.  One would argue if that doing things in the same sort of way hasn't incurred complaints in 17 years then the problem is the neighbour's expectations.  

If you can hear your neighbour and they can hear you, it isn't selfish and ignorant for you both to simply accept that some things can't be helped.  It is tolerant.   Some things that can be helped are also to be tolerated because you are sitting in exactly the same building and probably doing the same - ie. 4 year old screaming at 5am, TV on at 8.30pm.  

When I was younger, we could hear the 80 year old's TV next door.  She wasn't being selfish and ignorant, she was just trying to hear the thing.  It would have probably been selfish and ignorant of us to ask her to turn it down. 

When our neighbours had the occasional late night party, we got up and went next door.  😂

Norman_Castle

Doozergirl said:

Norman_Castle said:

Doozergirl said:

Norman_Castle said:

dori2o said:

However, now the neighbour has taken to banging on the walls and shouting for my daughter (age 19) to turn her TV down at 8.30pm as they have a 4yr old who cannot sleep.

The TV is not loud.  Mostly she's playing on her Xbox or Nintendo Switch, but watches YouTube vids before going to sleep.

The tv noise every evening is likely the problem, the diy noise just added to the problem. Computer games and youtube can be noisy, Its clearly loud enough for them to hear. Previous neighbour didn't complain possibly because they weren't a four year old trying to sleep in that room at 8.30. Your daughter has the option of showing some maturity and understanding or acting like a teenager and putting herself first.

When you live in a terraced house, noise happens.  If it isn't anti-social behaviour then it's just life and needs to be tolerated.  I'm quite sure that the four year old makes more than enough noise at other times of the day! 

When you live in any attached property you need to be considerate which includes considering if your tv is too loud. Considering any noise you choose to make as "just life" and expecting others to tolerate it is selfish and ignorant.

Its likely the four year old does make noise which the op is entitled to an opinion of whether its its excessive and unnecessary but thats not an excuse for their noise unless they choose a tit for tat response.

I agree the neighbour isn't complaining in the most agreeable way but that doesn't dismiss the noise problem.

People make noise in their own homes.   It isn't ignorant and selfish to do so.  One would argue if that doing things in the same sort of way hasn't incurred complaints in 17 years then the problem is the neighbour's expectations.  

If you can hear your neighbour and they can hear you, it isn't selfish and ignorant for you both to simply accept that some things can't be helped.  It is tolerant.   Some things that can be helped are also to be tolerated because you are sitting in exactly the same building and probably doing the same - ie. 4 year old screaming at 5am, TV on at 8.30pm.  

People have control over how much noise their tv makes. Turning it up loudly disregarding your neighbours isn't neighbourly. Some noise can't be helped but that doesn't include a tv's daily excessive volume. Its hard to consider a noise tolerable if its keeping a child awake and sounds unnecessarily loud.

The previous neighbour of 17 years who passed away was presumably elderly and had a choice of bedrooms. Its highly likely they were indifferent about the noise if it didn't affect them. Its also likely they knew the daughter from two years old and was more likely to accept their noise in the same way people accept their own families noise.

unforeseen

. Some noise can't be helped but that doesn't include a tv's volume

It can do as alluded to by Doozergirl. 
I have my TV up louder than what you would consider reasonable because I have hearing loss. Believe it or not, a lot older people have this problem, it's not unusual. If I went by your opinion then both TV and radio would be out of bounds to me as you would not consider the volume that I need to be reasonable. 

Norman_Castle

unforeseen said:

. Some noise can't be helped but that doesn't include a tv's volume

It can do as alluded to by Doozergirl. 
I have my TV up louder than what you would consider reasonable because I have hearing loss. Believe it or not, a lot older people have this problem, it's not unusual. If I went by your opinion then both TV and radio would be out of bounds to me as you would not consider the volume that I need to be reasonable. 

Its unavoidable for someone with hearing loss to turn their tv up. There's no suggestion the ops 19 year old daughter has hearing loss.

silverwhistle

Norman_Castle said:

Its unavoidable for someone with hearing loss to turn their tv up. There's no suggestion the ops 19 year old daughter has hearing loss.

There's little evidence she has had the TV at too loud a volume.

Norman_Castle

silverwhistle said:

Norman_Castle said:

Its unavoidable for someone with hearing loss to turn their tv up. There's no suggestion the ops 19 year old daughter has hearing loss.

There's little evidence she has had the TV at too loud a volume.

The neighbour might disagree.

unforeseen

Norman_Castle said:

silverwhistle said:

Norman_Castle said:

Its unavoidable for someone with hearing loss to turn their tv up. There's no suggestion the ops 19 year old daughter has hearing loss.

There's little evidence she has had the TV at too loud a volume.

The neighbour might disagree.

It sounds like the neighbour would disagree with any noise. 

elsien

The neighbours sound like fruit loops.
I live in a terrace; there is always some noise coming through the wall; it’s inevitable. 

With the first ones it was their 2 year old having the most spectacular tantrums. They were also prone to a bit of late night DIY which I would tolerate till 10 pm then I’d call round and in person and ask them to refrain for the evening. Which they did, 
The next lot was their music - not generally loud loud but Eastern European rap doesn’t really do it for me. 
The current neighbours just talk really loudly. So a lot of swearing and shouting at their dog. But you can’t call the police or council on people who are naturally loud. 

4 year olds can sleep through most things if they’re tired enough. And you talk to people rather than going straight for the nuclear option. Hammering on the wall is passive aggression at it’s best.
I think it likely the new neighbours have very unrealistic expectations. And no social skills whatsoever. 

Apintplease

sounds like the neighbour I had when I lived in a terrace, she came and banged on the door at 4 am cos the heating had kicked in!!!

BUT in saying that, there is a lot that can be done to be considerate to neighbours when living in a terrace, like move the tv and any sound systems off the party wall, think about what time the spin cycle comes on the washing machine if that too is on a party wall. If you have all wooden floors, what soft furnishings do you have that absorb noise? We built a big kitchen extension which caused the majority of problems with out neighbour, We weren't going out of our way to be noisy, but after the cost of the building, the soft furnishings were a while coming so the noise in there from the tv, dish washer, washing machine were amplified and the small bit of shared wall carried it straight over to her

comeandgo

There is no excuse for hard of hearing having TVs or music loud that it will annoy neighbours.   My husbands hearing aids are blue tooth and the radio or his phone go straight to his hearing aid, tv can have the words on the screen, I can’t recall what that is called, old age setting in I think.